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Regarding Railroads

Postby shirlig » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:52 am

Hi guys,

We receive a lot of questions and requests from users regarding railroads behavior in the client and the way they should be marked in the editor.

Railroads are currently not displayed in the client - we know that many of you use different workarounds for this issue like setting railroads as other non-drivable road types.

Please note that our official instructions are to always edit the map in a way that reflects the reality and to avoid workarounds to deal with wrong behaviors that need to be fixed from our end.

Regarding railroads - our instructions are to mark railroads as railroads road type. Please don't use different road types in order to force its display in the client.
We plan to add railroads to the client display.


Moreover, some of you use railroads road type as a way to add comments in the editor. As we plan to add road types to the map soon - please try to remove these comments and avoid adding more of them so they won't go live :)
Better communication tools are also planned for the editor.

Comment: there were some issues that made the routing use railroads and the navigation snap to railroad segments. These issue should be fixed.



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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby Caradellino » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:19 am

Thanks for releasing that, Shirli...

It's hard to argue common practice when the reason for the change is still classified. Now that this little background info is public, it's much easier to invoke changes :mrgreen:
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby DimanZ1 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:37 am

The good news :)
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby dknight212 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:10 am

Will there be any code to prevent users gaining miles on railroads and/or paving roads over them?

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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby DavidChanTW » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:27 am

I really hope Waze is able to track down/ prevent those Wazers who paved along the railroads. In Malaysia, there are some Wazers who abuse the paving feature and we have to frequently remove them.
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby argus-cronos » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:37 pm

Another mess again, nothing will be done with this to prevent segment speeds of paralel roads. Useless.
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby petervdveen » Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:49 pm

shirlig wrote:Regarding railroads - our instructions are to mark railroads as railroads road type. Please don't use different road types in order to force its display in the client.
We plan to add railroads to the client display.

You are already planning that for four years. What has been changed lately?
Moreover, some of you use railroads road type as a way to add comments in the editor. As we plan to add road types to the map soon - please try to remove these comments and avoid adding more of them so they won't go live :)
Better communication tools are also planned for the editor.

Those communication segments aren't for nothing. First give us some communication tools before pushing this trough!!
Why should it be pushed anyway? We didn't have it for four years. We can wait till we have a communication tool. Besides, we have created a work-a-round that works brilliant without any drawback.
Comment: there were some issues that made the routing use railroads and the navigation snap to railroad segments. These issue should be fixed.

Sticking to railroad segments is not a problem it's a requirement for using the railroad road-type.
The client should be fixed to the segment, otherwise all the speed data goes to the parallel segment.

Please make it work exactly like the walking trail and ped. boardwalk!!!!
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Re: AW: Regarding Railroads

Postby paulrissaweg » Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:21 pm

This discussion doesn't look too good here in the public forums, especially only a few days after the champs-meeting at waze-HQ...!
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby gerben » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:08 pm

petervdveen wrote:Sticking to railroad segments is not a problem it's a requirement for using the railroad road-type.
The client should be fixed to the segment, otherwise all the speed data goes to the parallel segment.


Indeed, they need to be snappable and visible, and if possible, driving points gained on railroads should be discarded. And they should be ignored by the routing server, so they should be drivable, but not routable.
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby petervdveen » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:05 pm

^^ As we said 4 years ago ;-)
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