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Re: REDIRECT to page section

Postby kentsmith9 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:11 am

sirKitKat wrote:Including ARegularWikiPage in an other page is done by {{:ARegularWikiPage}}

That is news to me and very cool indeed. I can see definite uses for that. :)

sirKitKat wrote:Maybe wait until there is more news from waze on the #redirect [[Page#section]].

Ultimately this should not need to be done if our Wiki was working properly. I agree we wait to see what they can do for us and if they fail, we can create some cool alternate solutions. ;)

The one thing I see missing from that above idea is when you want to direct into a part of a page to have context. A stand alone page for just one portion of a page may not work in all cases. Permalink is certainly one that that can stand alone very easily when someone searches from the Wiki. All our other links can go direct from within a Wiki page.
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Re: REDIRECT to page section

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:38 pm

OH. You are proposing we create a specific page on Permalink with ALL the content of the Permalink information. That way Permalink is no longer a sub section on a page, but its own page enabling the search to find it directly. Got it.

I will need to reread your prior post later tonight with this new information and see if that helps my understanding of the rest of your proposal to change the template. ;)
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Re: REDIRECT to page section

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:47 pm

sirKitKat wrote:* If in the future, you want to point people to an other location in the wiki about Permalinks you just have to change the Permalink page.

I understand the easy to remember point, but help me understand this other point. I must have missed it in your original proposal.

I am not clear what would be changed on the Permalink page. Do you mean on the Permalink redirect page?
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Re: REDIRECT to page section

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:22 pm

Also, I am currently working with Waze web team to identify the problem and get our Wiki code updated/fixed.
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Re: REDIRECT to page section

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:19 pm

Ok. I forgot we had pages that try to link to the redirect. Although that is a legitimate link, our current bug breaks it. I agree we can fix the problem, but why not just go direct to the page section with:

[[Waze Map Editor#Permalink|Permalink]]

This works fine, is the documented Wiki instruction for a link, and does not depend on some other strange bug workaround that might break in the next update. :lol:

Or are you somehow saying your triple Permalink link allows something more?

Note: I did go through the Wiki just now and replace all single permalink wikilinks to the one I listed above. They all tested fine from Wiki pages.
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Re: REDIRECT to page section

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:13 am

I'm not sure what you are trying to solve. Today any link in the Wiki can go directly to a subsection on a page with no problem. The issue is when you want to search for the redirect, it fails.

If you want to send someone to the Permalink specific subsection from the Wiki, you enter:

[[Waze Map Editor#Permalink|Permalink]]

How is entering:

[[Permalink#Permalink|Permalink]]

a better solution?
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Re: REDIRECT to page section

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:37 am

I keep finding old messages from 2005-2006 that says you cannot redirect to an anchor (we aren't even trying to do that). However today if you go to Wikipedia and search for "Intel SSD" you will be taken to a section on that page that is only reached by the anchor template just before that section displayed. Therefore sometime after 2006 this bug has been fixed at least for Wikipedia.
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Re: REDIRECT to page section

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:31 am

Another note in the Wikimedia page on Section linking states:

(One might have to force reload CSS style sheets.)
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Re: REDIRECT to page section

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:27 am

I am going to post some notes from my search on this problem and have the Waze back-end team review here.

I found this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special: ... Wiki/18220 talking about adding a fix for allowing a redirect to a section of a page.

In Wikipedia they can currently redirect to a section on a page, so I know it is possible. Somehow we are missing that feature, patch, fix, etc. I thought it was working maybe 6 months ago, so it is possible with the last update to add the Parser Extensions we might have lost something we need for REDIRECTs.
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Re: REDIRECT to page section

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:54 am

REDIRECTS work two ways:

1. When typed in the search bar they should go directly to the section noted in the redirect, but I too have noticed they seem to have stopped working in the last few months. I spoke to Jackson on that and was going to write it up for him to send to the Wiki back end guys.

2. When linked from inside another page, they seem to work fine, but I think it may be looking at the actual location, not the redirect.

Does this match your experience?

EDIT: both of the above situations are currently acting the same as #1.
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