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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby gordonski » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:34 pm

no1uknow wrote:"To enable the change, we need you to remove such road segments from the map, and make sure new ones are not added to it - Otherwise they’ll appear in the client and confuse users."

I read it as though we are to remove the segments. Please clarify.


This will get clearer when reading the whole post:

"Some of you used those roads to mark certain issues on the map.
After enabling those road types in the client, this will of course no longer be possible, as any segment with any text in it’s name will be presented to all app users.
To enable the change, ...
"

The requested deletion only refers to railroads segments that have been "misused" as markers in the editor, e.g. to write something like "do not modifiy segment xyz" to reach editors that don't read the forum.

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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby ispyisail » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:54 am

I hope Waze makes more announcements like this one.

Sometimes I think waze needs to put a stake in the ground and say "this is what we want"

Letting local communities make their own decisions can create problems.
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby Krixera » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:27 am

I really hope Waze is able to track down/ prevent those Wazers who paved along the railroads. In Malaysia, there are some Wazers who abuse the paving feature and we have to frequently remove them.
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby Kuhlkatz » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:48 am

Sometimes it's a good thing to put your foot down, but other times you have to get your own house in order as well. In this case I think it cuts both ways.

The paving that we had to clean up frequently could only stop if users are snapped to railroads and if they actually saw them in the client, thereby stopping the urge to pave them in the first place. This frequently messed up maps.

The tainting of speed data on adjacent roads also tend to do more damage for routing than any rogue editor can do if Wazers are not snapped to it, which is why alternate types were used in some countries.

Either each object needs a note field with an icon indicating notes are attached, or editors need an editable/visible note pin that remains visible in WME irrespective of visible layer selection. This would stop the 'notes' aspect.

The routing engine needs to honor the non-drivable aspect of roads not meant for commuting and the client somehow
needs to honor snapping to any road type while not navigating without tainting speeds that are outside the norm.

Just my 2c.

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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby McCracken808 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:03 pm

vickimachado wrote:The neighbor islands have remnants of industrial track from the old sugar plantation days, but most are not in use at all and wouldn't need to be mapped.


Woah Nellie. ;) Let's not forget the "Sugar Cane Train" in Lahaina. :lol:

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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby mdavidsonjr » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:20 am

So when will the railroads be displayed in the client then. We get a lot of request for them.


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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby MdSyah » Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:38 pm

In the first place this topic should not be made public.
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby Mike-1323 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:30 am

shawndoc wrote:So you are saying Waze shouldn't tell us that Railroads are coming to the client soon and how we should handle railroads? I think quite the opposite, its great it telling us what is coming and how they expect a feature to work. What benefit is it to hide it where only champs can see?

I agree that it's great to hear an official announcement about upcoming capability. I am however disappointed by the lack of replacement for the functionality that they are telling us not to do any more (in-editor notes; one of the current uses of railroad type)

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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby no1uknow » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:34 am

Railroads should now be deleted from the editor per:
http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=79708
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby no1uknow » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:59 am

sketch wrote:
no1uknow wrote:Railroads should now be deleted from the editor per:
http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=79708

Not exactly. Railroad segments used as editor notes should be deleted. Railroad segments should be added for actual railroads.


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"To enable the change, we need you to remove such road segments from the map, and make sure new ones are not added to it - Otherwise they’ll appear in the client and confuse users."

I read it as though we are to remove the segments. Please clarify.
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