Change in editing points

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Re: Change in editing points

Postby Thortok2000 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:13 am

I agree, on the face of it, it seems like a 'simple fix', but I like that it requires that editors actually drive to get those points. I don't really care about point farming myself, I just want an accurate map, (honestly I wish I could disable the candies, it cuts over my Pandora when I'm driving,) but if others are going to be point farmers, the best thing they can do is simply drive the roads and give Waze more data to work with.

So I neither like the candies and the noise they make, nor do I farm for points myself anyway, but I'm still against this change because of the behavior it encourages in point farmers.

Please consider reverting this decision and simply fixing the bug.
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Re: Change in editing points

Postby iainhouse » Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:11 pm

I'm going to speak out against this. I recognise that there's no change in the points earned from editing. However I really liked this element of Waze.

It provides some entertainment value and makes it seem like Waze has a "lighter" side. It also gives a secondary non-tangible reward: my first reward for editing is seeing a badly mapped area cleaned up, but the second is getting those candies the following day.

Finally, you have upset my kids, who like it when the candies appear. Direct quote from the youngest: "No, I want to keep the candies!".

With reference to your reasons given:

2) there should be more achievements that are not one-time achievements
3) if it's buggy fix it , don't get rid of it.

As discussed extensively elsewhere, we should be adding achievements for drivers, rather than removing achievements for editors (yes, I haven't forgotten there's no change in points earned).

Also having taken ages to type (as usual ;) ) I see Alan has commented before me - and I agree with that one as well.
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Re: Change in editing points

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:09 pm

One of the purposes of the candy bonus was to "force" editors to get out and also drive so that Waze benefits from that usage as well. If Waze doesn't feel that's necessary now, then this is fine.
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Change in editing points

Postby fvwazing » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:16 pm

Candies not eaten always were added to the score after a week or so. You never lose the points, even if you don't drive or disable display of roadcandies.
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Change in editing points

Postby fvwazing » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:31 am

In other words, separate scoreboards for drivers and editors. Let editors compete on editcount, drivers compete on distance driven and quantity/quality of their reports.
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Change in editing points

Postby shirlig » Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:55 pm

UPDATE (November 25):
the first step in the process is complete:
All edits from now are credited with 3 points. The candy is withheld.
In the upcoming days we will reimburse editors who didn't take all the candies with all the missing points. After it's done we will re-enable the candy with the new parameters - 300 points per 3000 edits.
Regarding more gaming stuff for drivers - I informed the product team that there's a huge demand for this and they will check what can be done.

Hi guys,

We wanted to inform you that we're going to make a change in map edit points.
Up until now, each map edit was credited with 1.5 points.
Moreover, for each 500 edits - users were credited with a 750 point achievement candy, i.e additional 1.5 points per edit.
So overall, each edit was worth 3 points.

The change planned is to directly credit each edit with 3 points and cancel the 750 candy.

Why?
1) It seems to make more sense
2) The multi-time achievement is not consistent with other achievements in the client (all achievements are one-time achievements)
3) This achievement specifically is very buggy and many times users don't get their points for the edits.

We might replace this multi-time achievement in the future with a different one-time achievement for editors.

Thanks!
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