Pennsylvania does not follow USA guidance regarding functional classifications – instead implementing local Pennsylvania guidance. This has gotten some editors into trouble changing road classifications. I had an exchange with the New Jersey SM. New Jersey follows the USA Road guidance for FC with no deviations. There is no subjectivity involved in making an FC related edit.

Pennsylvania deviation regarding mH- as found on the Waze Pennsylvania wiki:

Minor Arterial: The following roads do not follow USA guidance :
1. State Routes Unshielded.
2. Locally Maintained.

These two road types in Pennsylvania are set as Primary Street (PS) per the Pennsylvania Waze wiki.

Here is the wording from Waze USA Road Types wiki regarding the USA standard for minor highways (MH).

"The following roads are to be classified, at minimum, as Minor Highway :
Roads classified in FHWA's functional classification as Minor Arterials or Other Arterials.
Signed, numbered routes in state, D.C., and territorial highway systems.
This includes Alternate (ALT), Bypass (BYP), Connector (CONN), Truck, and Scenic state highways.
This includes Spur state highways when they are used to connect state highways with other state highways, US Highways, or Interstates; i.e., Spur highways which are used like Connector (CONN) highways.
This does not include Business (BUS), Loop, and other Spur state highways.
Business (BUS), Loop, and Spur US Highways.
Note: Not every state highway system is the same. Some state systems may be overinclusive, whether because of differing standards or because of political corruption and pork barrel spending; as such, your state may make exceptions where some lesser state highways are better represented by the Primary Street type. Contact your regional coordinator before making these decisions".

According to this guidance, ALL MINOR ARTERIALS and OTHER ARTERIALS should be set at Minor Highway (mH). In my opinion, Pennsylvania should adopt the national standard for functional classification and drop the local standard. Simplicity is one of the hallmarks of Waze. Having a local standard that does not match the national standard adds complexity and confusion amoung the editing community.

Let's follow the USA standard. Our motto is "Usability, Simplicity, Retention". Make it useful, keep it simple, and do not delete. That's right from the Welcome to Waze map editing wiki page. Let's formulate our plan around those principles and take the subjectivity out of the equation. It will tighten our quality control with diffinitive guidance that will lead to consistent edits.

I've confirmed that the following states are conforming to USA Road Type Guidance (Near PA). Ohio, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, & Rhode Island. New York HAD a hybrid road classification system but is undergoing a revamp with a focus on conforming to USA Guidance.

Currently - Pennsylvania is the only state in the Waze Northeast or New England regions that does not conform to USA Road Type Guidance. In all those other states - Roads with an Functional Classification of Minor Arterial are mapped at a MINIMUM LEVEL of mH (Minor Highway). I think we should get with the program and conform.

Thanks for reading my post!

I concur with Erik. He's found a small number of minor arterials - "exceptions to the rule" in extremely rural area's that rarely get 'Wazed" IMO. If we follow Waze Wiki USA Road type guidance, we have a short list of exceptions.

Under our current guidance, We have hundreds of exceptions to the rule, with hundreds more minor arterials in urban / suburban area's getting converted over to PS from mH. This guidance has resulted in a loss of quality control, and editing consistency - which is why we are having this discussion in the first place.

Team,

I'd like to see a new section added to the PA Wazeopedia called "Pennsylvania Recurring Event Road Closures" / "Recurring Event Closures". PA has hundreds, if not thousands of annual road closures for recurring events such as the 126th Philadelphia Thanksgiving Day parade, Lansdale's 67th Annual Mardi Gras Parade, or the Stroudsburg / East Stroudsburg annual Veteran's Day Parade to name a few examples.

As we discover these event's, they would be added to a "sheet" which could be possibly sorted by month, city, or county? We would have a checkbox of sorts to indicate to others that the Closure was installed for the upcoming event. With a quick link on the Wazeopedia page, any new editor could come along and easily tackle these local events. Other than the major parades in Philly and Pittsburgh, most of these annual closures are missed by map editors.

Accurately identifying and then tracking these events will step our game up to the next level and help numerous Wazer's! Hoping one of our IT editors can put something together and everyone will agree to linking this new page to our WOP.

Looks fine to me. Having the SR-#### names as searchable in WME is helpful in some areas of the state where there are no useful road names or the road names listed in Waze don't match what PennDOT uses. Because we have a scattering of SR-#### names now I often go to the PennDOT OneMap to double check; if you select the "Route" option it will highlight any single state roadway you select.

RussPA wrote:I updated the three PennDOT map links since PennDOT changed their links:
- PennDOT's municipal maps (http://www.penndot.gov/ProjectAndProgra ... fault.aspx)

- PennDOT's County Maps (http://www.penndot.gov/ProjectAndProgra ... pe-10.aspx)

- PennDOT Functional Classification county maps (http://www.penndot.gov/ProjectAndProgra ... Class.aspx)

Thanks. PennDOT's links, even when you search their own website, were dead. I had to scroll down their results to find the new link.

Looks good. It corresponds with the 511 feed results we see (Keith's great work).

As discussed in the PA Discord channel:

Naming Fire Departments

Fire Departments exist as agencies and can have identifiers such as stations or equipment. When naming a fire department, use the following format:

Name - Identifier (if applicable)
Examples: Reading Fire Department - Engine 3 & Ladder 1

Only append with an identifier if the department has multiple stations or noted equipment.

The Places section on the PA wiki has been updated to reflect the accepted guidance on naming fire departments.

https://wazeopedia.waze.com/wiki/USA/Pe ... nia#Places