Change in editing points

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Re: Change in editing points

Postby davipt » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:07 am

As i said when I was editing like a maniac and driving on Sunday, I'd be getting a bunch on candies. If I didn't drive, I'd be getting the same points on the weekly top rank. Besides delays and other screw ups I never felt like loosing points from the lack of candies, and this was the message we were passing to other users - don't worry you always get the points no matter the candies, this Monday or next in case of delays.
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Re: Change in editing points

Postby sketch » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:56 pm

davipt wrote:Now I'm completely lost and almost feel like dropping all my rank levels and start from scratch. For almost three years I was completely convinced that the editing points were independent of the bonus candies, in the sense of the system counting the edit points (1.5 per edit, 3 per street, whatever), and as soon as they'd reach the 750 points, the bonus would appear on the map. More importantly, I was convinced that when the bonus wasn't captured (e.g. not driving during the weekend), the points would still appear, all together, on monday morning when the weekly top was recalculated. This sentence goes against everything I read two years ago. I never felt lost points (except one rollback where I'm sure the whole data was lost).

Whatever for the points.

But missing the candies on the street makes waze a "simple navigation system". Please also remove every other distraction then - remove the other wazers, the map chat, the private message, the beep, the cats and dogs and whatever else avatar, all that crap. Who cares about a good but funny navigation system. </sarcasm>

Me and my kid want the the candy back. Even if it gives 0 points. Don't take the fun out of waze!

Shirli specifically said the candies were coming back, once the kinks are worked out.

Apparently the bonus points were only gained upon eating the candy, which I think might be part of the problem—what if you missed the candy? Maybe not. Either way, it can of course be calculated how many candies you should have gotten from how many edits you have, and therefore, by comparing the total you actually received with what you should have, the lost candy points can be made up for.
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Re: Change in editing points

Postby Daknife » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:48 pm

Gotta add my support for What Davitp said. Give us back the fun. Give us back the candies. My kids also loved seeing the candies. They liked the old trumpet flair candy announcement better as well.
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Re: Change in editing points

Postby abnerw13 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:06 am

if my opinion counts :? .... I agree completely with davipt :D

Me and my kid want the the candy back. Even if it gives 0 points. Don't take the fun out of waze!


I love the candies...Even if it gives 0 points :mrgreen:
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Re: Change in editing points

Postby seriousarsonist » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:13 am

I agree with davipt completely on that


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Re: Change in editing points

Postby davipt » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:24 pm

shirlig wrote:Up until now, each map edit was credited with 1.5 points.
Moreover, for each 500 edits - users were credited with a 750 point achievement candy, i.e additional 1.5 points per edit.
So overall, each edit was worth 3 points.

Why?
1) It seems to make more sense
2) The multi-time achievement is not consistent with other achievements in the client (all achievements are one-time achievements)
3) This achievement specifically is very buggy and many times users don't get their points for the edits.


Now I'm completely lost and almost feel like dropping all my rank levels and start from scratch. For almost three years I was completely convinced that the editing points were independent of the bonus candies, in the sense of the system counting the edit points (1.5 per edit, 3 per street, whatever), and as soon as they'd reach the 750 points, the bonus would appear on the map. More importantly, I was convinced that when the bonus wasn't captured (e.g. not driving during the weekend), the points would still appear, all together, on monday morning when the weekly top was recalculated. This sentence goes against everything I read two years ago. I never felt lost points (except one rollback where I'm sure the whole data was lost).

Whatever for the points.

But missing the candies on the street makes waze a "simple navigation system". Please also remove every other distraction then - remove the other wazers, the map chat, the private message, the beep, the cats and dogs and whatever else avatar, all that crap. Who cares about a good but funny navigation system. </sarcasm>

Me and my kid want the the candy back. Even if it gives 0 points. Don't take the fun out of waze!
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Re: Change in editing points

Postby foxitrot » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:41 pm

kentsmith9 wrote:By that math is looks like you net 3.1 points per edit after you collect the bonus.

...as we were actually getting always, in the past: by the math, 1.6 direct points per edit + 750/500 = 1.5 candy points per 500 edits. (I'm aware it disagrees with wiki (1.5+1.5), these are just my observations.)
In net, no change. The value 3.1 just gets official.
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Re: Change in editing points

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:32 pm

argus-cronos wrote:Didn't they change the edit bonus already:

Shirli wrote:UPDATE (November 25):
the first step in the process is complete:
All edits from now are credited with 3 points. The candy is withheld.
In the upcoming days we will reimburse editors who didn't take all the candies with all the missing points. After it's done we will re-enable the candy with the new parameters - 300 points per 3000 edits. Regarding more gaming stuff for drivers - I informed the product team that there's a huge demand for this and they will check what can be done

I saw the note from that time, but since it changed a few times since the thread started I did not want to presume it was final. If the group believes we are done with those changes we can make it permanent. I have not been tracking my points in a long time, so I don't know if the bonus candies are being implemented yet. By that math is looks like you net 3.1 points per edit after you collect the bonus.
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Re: Change in editing points

Postby argus-cronos » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:11 pm

Didn't they change the edit bonus already:

Shirli wrote:UPDATE (November 25):
the first step in the process is complete:
All edits from now are credited with 3 points. The candy is withheld.
In the upcoming days we will reimburse editors who didn't take all the candies with all the missing points. After it's done we will re-enable the candy with the new parameters - 300 points per 3000 edits. Regarding more gaming stuff for drivers - I informed the product team that there's a huge demand for this and they will check what can be done
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Re: Change in editing points

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:31 pm

I added a note to the Bonus Point template in the Wiki to reflect this is changing and current information is in the forums. Once we are sure this is all finished we can make the updates
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