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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby deeggo » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:21 pm

I don't quite understand what's making you get a route around the closure. Is it by approaching it enough, or by simply driving? Or difference livemap / client?
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby sketch » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:52 pm

I'm not sure if it's approaching or just driving that triggers it. I haven't been out driving particularly to test, I've needed to go places where the normal route would take me through the closure, so I've always been driving towards it.

The Livemap is working inconsistently. It always seems to respect closures if I enter my origin and destination using addresses. If I set origin and destination pins manually, it respects closures sometimes and ignores them other times — when I started testing, it seemed to ignore them, and now it seems to respect them. Try it yourself: https://www.waze.com/livemap?zoom=15&la ... n=-90.0751

A separate problem, it looks like either Waze staff or the Waze process has missed a few of the cross streets, like the ones here on First and Josephine.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures  Topic is solved

Postby redviper26 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:09 pm

Hey guys,

Closures work on a segment basis. If a segment is blocked, you can still cross it if there's an intersection. The closure is only for the segment, not the node. If you want to close an intersection, you need to close all segments going through it.

That's the basics. Did you encounter anything that does not work as it should? From what i've read here that is not the case, am I missing something?

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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby deeggo » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:21 pm

Noam, then the presentation should be changed to reflect this.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby sketch » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:22 pm

redviper26 wrote:Hey guys,

Closures work on a segment basis. If a segment is blocked, you can still cross it if there's an intersection. The closure is only for the segment, not the node. If you want to close an intersection, you need to close all segments going through it.

That's the basics. Did you encounter anything that does not work as it should? From what i've read here that is not the case, am I missing something?

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As deeggo said, the presentation sent to me when my event was approved says that crossing the route is also prohibited. Specifically:

"The system will block all the selected segments, taking into account that crossing the course of the event is forbidden, we will also block those junction’s segments"

So yes, a segment closure only closes that segment; but, according to the presentation, cross-segments will also be closed by staff. If that's not the case, let me know, and change the presentation; I will include the cross-segment IDs in the list next year.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby tonestertm » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:32 pm

Great. So for the LA Marathon I just set up, I now have to go back and close 26 miles worth of cross-streets, too? Granted, I already have some of them in there due to closures which were specifically called out by the marathon organizers, but I'm easily looking at another hundred or so cross streets.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby petervdveen » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:25 pm

tonestertm wrote:Great. So for the LA Marathon I just set up, I now have to go back and close 26 miles worth of cross-streets, too? Granted, I already have some of them in there due to closures which were specifically called out by the marathon organizers, but I'm easily looking at another hundred or so cross streets.

I don't think that should take you more then half an hour :-)
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby redviper26 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:49 am

Hey guys,

We changed the presentation accordingly. Let us know if there are any more issues.

Thanks,

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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby tonestertm » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:07 pm

Clarification:

Here's what Gal told me (tonight) in partial response to some queries I made about the spreadsheet.

As Noam says, the crossings do not close automatically.
Once we enter the information and submit it, the information is transferred to a second sheet, the times are converted to UTC, and the cross-street closures are added by hand as needed. The second sheet's information is then used to set the map closures, including crossings, while the information we submit on the first sheet is used to inform the event web page.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby LeighGr » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:56 am

For the Cape Argus, I'm not seeing a single closure on the client nor livemap, and both are quite happy routing me over roads that have been closed since midnight (6 hours ago).

I'm not venturing out there as it's absolute chaos at the start, though I've messaged a few Wazers I do see out there making their way to the start, asking if if they see any road closures.

I'm also not happy with the fact that crossing aren't handled as originally advertised. I'll just have to get it right next year, when hopefully I'm one of the 40,000 nuts out there.
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