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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby petervdveen » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:25 pm

tonestertm wrote:Great. So for the LA Marathon I just set up, I now have to go back and close 26 miles worth of cross-streets, too? Granted, I already have some of them in there due to closures which were specifically called out by the marathon organizers, but I'm easily looking at another hundred or so cross streets.

I don't think that should take you more then half an hour :-)
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures  Topic is solved

Postby redviper26 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:09 pm

Hey guys,

Closures work on a segment basis. If a segment is blocked, you can still cross it if there's an intersection. The closure is only for the segment, not the node. If you want to close an intersection, you need to close all segments going through it.

That's the basics. Did you encounter anything that does not work as it should? From what i've read here that is not the case, am I missing something?

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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby redviper26 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:49 am

Hey guys,

We changed the presentation accordingly. Let us know if there are any more issues.

Thanks,

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Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby sketch » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:51 am

At least cross-street closures.

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St Charles is entirely closed. Crossings should not be allowed at all, per the event entry presentations.

There is, at the least, one actually-possible route during the closure.


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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby sketch » Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:57 pm

deeggo wrote:We have seen the same here. If you consider that these are segment closures, it's working correctly. The question is if it's desirable.

The presentation you're sent when your event is approved clearly and specifically states that cross-streets are automatically closed as well, so this should not be permitted.

Besides, having to close all the various parade routes is hard enough. Having to add hundreds upon hundreds of cross streets is absurd.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby sketch » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:42 am

petervdveen wrote:But what if you can cross?
Then it will be impossible.

I think overall leaving it as it is is the easiest.
Btw, you know you don't have to do it street by street?
Just selecting a few extra streets isn't that a big job, I think.

The problem isn't whether or not it's working one way or the other, it's whether or not it's working as advertised. It is advertised as prohibiting crossings, so it should prohibit crossings. I selected the segments for the closure based on this understanding.

I do agree that some flexibility would be nice, but we need to be told how it's going to work.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby sketch » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:13 pm

Okay, it seems like it might actually be working? My test routes sent me right through the closure, but when I actually drove places where my route was affected, the route changed after a few minutes to go around the closure. I've been checking the route when I start out and they go through the closure, but then once I get down the route it's changed to take me around it. Last night I even got a rather confusing "We found a better route!" message, except the new ETA was actually 4 minutes later than the original ETA.

So, weird behavior, but perhaps not as bad as I thought. Having to get out and actually drive around the closures to test it makes it a lot harder to deal with, though.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby sketch » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:52 pm

I'm not sure if it's approaching or just driving that triggers it. I haven't been out driving particularly to test, I've needed to go places where the normal route would take me through the closure, so I've always been driving towards it.

The Livemap is working inconsistently. It always seems to respect closures if I enter my origin and destination using addresses. If I set origin and destination pins manually, it respects closures sometimes and ignores them other times — when I started testing, it seemed to ignore them, and now it seems to respect them. Try it yourself: https://www.waze.com/livemap?zoom=15&la ... n=-90.0751

A separate problem, it looks like either Waze staff or the Waze process has missed a few of the cross streets, like the ones here on First and Josephine.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby sketch » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:22 pm

redviper26 wrote:Hey guys,

Closures work on a segment basis. If a segment is blocked, you can still cross it if there's an intersection. The closure is only for the segment, not the node. If you want to close an intersection, you need to close all segments going through it.

That's the basics. Did you encounter anything that does not work as it should? From what i've read here that is not the case, am I missing something?

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As deeggo said, the presentation sent to me when my event was approved says that crossing the route is also prohibited. Specifically:

"The system will block all the selected segments, taking into account that crossing the course of the event is forbidden, we will also block those junction’s segments"

So yes, a segment closure only closes that segment; but, according to the presentation, cross-segments will also be closed by staff. If that's not the case, let me know, and change the presentation; I will include the cross-segment IDs in the list next year.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby tonestertm » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:32 pm

Great. So for the LA Marathon I just set up, I now have to go back and close 26 miles worth of cross-streets, too? Granted, I already have some of them in there due to closures which were specifically called out by the marathon organizers, but I'm easily looking at another hundred or so cross streets.
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