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Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby sketch » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:51 am

At least cross-street closures.

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St Charles is entirely closed. Crossings should not be allowed at all, per the event entry presentations.

There is, at the least, one actually-possible route during the closure.


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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby LeighGr » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:04 am

Now this is very confusing. It was pointed out to me by another editor that the road closures are now appearing, but about 10 hours late, and I can see them in livemap from the finish, going 3/4 of the way round back to the start.

Maybe it needs the lack of traffic on the roads to kick in??

It will be interesting to see if the closure are removed at the listed times. If not, then I suspect a time zone conversion snafu.

Shall keep monitoring.

Update @12:40: Closures appear to be removed at the correct time, from what I can see from livemap.

Update @20:30: All closures have been removed. Looks as if it was just a late implementation, as the "Avoid traffic from the cycle tour" notification was only sent at 09:46, by which time the elite group, who left at 06:15 and took just over 2 and a half hours to complete the 109 km route had long since finished.

Many thanks to all at Waze Support involved. This process can only get better.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby LeighGr » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:56 am

For the Cape Argus, I'm not seeing a single closure on the client nor livemap, and both are quite happy routing me over roads that have been closed since midnight (6 hours ago).

I'm not venturing out there as it's absolute chaos at the start, though I've messaged a few Wazers I do see out there making their way to the start, asking if if they see any road closures.

I'm also not happy with the fact that crossing aren't handled as originally advertised. I'll just have to get it right next year, when hopefully I'm one of the 40,000 nuts out there.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby tonestertm » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:07 pm

Clarification:

Here's what Gal told me (tonight) in partial response to some queries I made about the spreadsheet.

As Noam says, the crossings do not close automatically.
Once we enter the information and submit it, the information is transferred to a second sheet, the times are converted to UTC, and the cross-street closures are added by hand as needed. The second sheet's information is then used to set the map closures, including crossings, while the information we submit on the first sheet is used to inform the event web page.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby redviper26 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:49 am

Hey guys,

We changed the presentation accordingly. Let us know if there are any more issues.

Thanks,

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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby petervdveen » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:25 pm

tonestertm wrote:Great. So for the LA Marathon I just set up, I now have to go back and close 26 miles worth of cross-streets, too? Granted, I already have some of them in there due to closures which were specifically called out by the marathon organizers, but I'm easily looking at another hundred or so cross streets.

I don't think that should take you more then half an hour :-)
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby tonestertm » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:32 pm

Great. So for the LA Marathon I just set up, I now have to go back and close 26 miles worth of cross-streets, too? Granted, I already have some of them in there due to closures which were specifically called out by the marathon organizers, but I'm easily looking at another hundred or so cross streets.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby sketch » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:22 pm

redviper26 wrote:Hey guys,

Closures work on a segment basis. If a segment is blocked, you can still cross it if there's an intersection. The closure is only for the segment, not the node. If you want to close an intersection, you need to close all segments going through it.

That's the basics. Did you encounter anything that does not work as it should? From what i've read here that is not the case, am I missing something?

Noam

As deeggo said, the presentation sent to me when my event was approved says that crossing the route is also prohibited. Specifically:

"The system will block all the selected segments, taking into account that crossing the course of the event is forbidden, we will also block those junction’s segments"

So yes, a segment closure only closes that segment; but, according to the presentation, cross-segments will also be closed by staff. If that's not the case, let me know, and change the presentation; I will include the cross-segment IDs in the list next year.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures

Postby deeggo » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:21 pm

Noam, then the presentation should be changed to reflect this.
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Re: Waze is ignoring event closures  Topic is solved

Postby redviper26 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:09 pm

Hey guys,

Closures work on a segment basis. If a segment is blocked, you can still cross it if there's an intersection. The closure is only for the segment, not the node. If you want to close an intersection, you need to close all segments going through it.

That's the basics. Did you encounter anything that does not work as it should? From what i've read here that is not the case, am I missing something?

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