[Script] WME Validator 1.1.7 / 06.03.2015

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Postby ditchi56 » Fri May 30, 2014 8:57 am

Can you devise a way of stopping Validator complaining about junctions like this?

Or alternatively a better way of mapping it, but routing and instructions are fine this way?
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Re: [Script] WME Validator 1.0.0 / 26.05.2014

Postby ditchi56 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:35 am

Additional validation request:

I believe "parking lot" and "gas station" landmark/place's suppress Waze's monitoring of traffic speed. Therefore could Validator please report parking lots and gas stations overlapping roads of "street" level and above?
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Re: [Script] WME Validator 1.0.0 / 26.05.2014

Postby ditchi56 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:33 pm

arbaot wrote:tricky to code

It may well be impractical to test for this.
I've no idea what can reasonably be done and what can't. I can only put forward a suggestion when I have an idea, and let the big brains decide what it is feasible.
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Re: [Script] WME Validator 1.0.0 / 26.05.2014

Postby ditchi56 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:44 pm

Additional validation request (hopefully this one will be a bit easier to implement):

When we have a part-time toll road, typically toll during the day and free overnight, we want Waze to try to avoid the toll for people who have "avoid tolls" set on. While not diverting people overnight.

This has been implemented with apparent success by drawing two roads on top each other, one set up as a toll road, and the other non-toll but time-restricted. There's an example here, on the boundary on the London Congestion Charging Zone. Note the little kink in the middle of each segment so that they can both be seen at high zoom on WME, while looking like a single road on the client.

Validator complains about this, coming up with errors 118, 119 & 78. Would it be possible to suppress these three messages for two overlapping segments linking the same pair of nodes when all of the following are true:
- the two segments have identical name, road type & direction
- exactly one of the segments is a toll road
- the segment which not a toll road has a time restriction
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Re: [Script] WME Validator 1.0.0 / 26.05.2014

Postby ditchi56 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:20 am

kentsmith9 wrote:
ditchi56 wrote:Validator complains about this, coming up with errors 118, 119 & 78.

I just created a similar setup in my test area and found the following:

1. 118 and 119 seem resolvable by having the 2 degrees of separation recommended. I don't see why you have them actually overlapping if you then have a massive bump in the middle that will clearly be seen in the client. I have the two roads parallel each other by a small gap and it seems fine.

2. 78 is there for routing. Just split the toll segment and you: a) fix any routing issue if you start in one of those two segments, and b) solve the error message.


1. The two segments must start and end overlapping perfectly. If you have the 2 degrees of separation, you risk Waze generating unwanted "keep left" / "keep right" instructions. There is no massive bump in the middle, the central separation is kept small so that it is only visible in WME at high zoom, and not at all noticeable in the client.

Two parallel roads with a small gap would appear as two roads in the client, which would be an inappropriate rendering of a single road on the ground.

2. This solution has been running for six months now with no reported routing problems. I'm not sure whether this is because the segments are so short that Waze can start routing from the end rather than the middle without anyone noticing, or whether it is because it doesn't matter which segment it starts from. Either way, there is no routing issue here to resolve.

Please refer to the Waze Wiki if you require further information.
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Re: [Script] WME Validator 1.0.3 / 04.08.2014

Postby ditchi56 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:33 pm

The latest release seems a step backwards with the loss of the map links, apparently "requested by Waze staff".

I can understand the removal of links to copyright data such as Bing, but surely

- there's no reason to remove the link to Google maps since Google own Waze, they're not going to object to their own property being enhanced?

- there's no reason to remove the link to OpenStreetMap since that prides itself on being copyright-free?
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Re: [Script] WME Validator 1.1.4 / 07.11.2014

Postby ditchi56 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:42 am

Olestas wrote:How can this be used on Mac/Safari?

The best solution for Mac that I was able to come up with a couple of years ago was download the Firefox browser. That's still working fine for me, but if someone can find a way of getting scripts and extensions to work on Safari that would be nice.
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Re: [Script] WME Validator 0.8.2 (BETA) / 09.03.2014

Postby dknight212 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:34 am

Finding Validator so useful for finding newbie mistakes (and some of us old hands too!). This request is a big one and I'm not sure how you would do it without some exception testing. In London we use this type of construction to work the time based operation of our congestion charge. The idea is to make sure the client display shows it as a normal road as the clever stuff is all overlapped (blame iainhouse for this!). Of course Validator flags it up as overlapping - is it possible to prevent these types of segments being raised as issues?
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Re: [Script] WME Validator 0.8.2 (BETA) / 09.03.2014

Postby dknight212 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:56 pm

berestovskyy wrote:
dknight212 wrote:In London we use this type of construction to work the time based operation of our congestion charge.[...]is it possible to prevent these types of segments being raised as issues?

It's not a problem to suppress the "Overlapping segments" either for lvl 6 locked segments or if one of the overlapping segments has a time based restriction.

Please note that Validator users have the "Exclude non-editable segments" option set by default, so low-level users do not see those errors since the segments have lvl 6 lock.

Please discuss the options I mentioned above with the other CMs and let me know shall I exclude lvl 6 locked segments, segments with restrictions, both or neither.

Thanks!


Thanks for this, unfortunately no great demand from the other UK CMs for this. I wonder if it would ever be useful to have the ability to select only certain lock levels for checking? I suppose not, given that an error is an error whoever caused it. Oh well.
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Re: [Script] WME Validator 1.0.3 / 04.08.2014

Postby doctorkb » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:04 pm

SuperDave1426 wrote:Ok, thanks. I wonder if he can be persuaded to add State Managers, at least within the states they manage....


I doubt it. I suspect that he's using a "CM" flag that is applied to a user's record by the Waze system.

To expand it to anyone else would have to be to "AM" or everyone... unless he did a username-by-username validation.
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