[New Page] Map tiles

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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby kentsmith9 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:03 am

Doesn't seem likely. We were doing some edits on landmarks so huge it would take seconds to render the image each time we edited it. I swapped out a landmark with too many geo nodes for the Grand Canyon and drew in a new one. There are no roads in the area, so only the landmark itself could have caused all those tiles to update.

I think you may have run into an anomaly.
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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:18 pm

sketch wrote:I'm confident that geometry, street name, and landmark changes will trigger tile updates. I've heard suspicions that time-based segment restrictions will not.

Good feedback. I assume your confidence on "street name" is based on actual map field (yours or someone else) testing. I am curious because I was thinking at one point I tried changing the name fields of a road and that did not trigger the update, but it did not make sense to me. So if you know that change alone will trigger the update, I am good with that.

For landmark changes, are you grouping 1) geometry changes, 2) entire landmark shifting, and 3) any edits to the name fields as all individually able to trigger a tile update?

Since the landmarks are on a different layer than roads, do we "know" any layer change that triggers a tile update will update all layers?
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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:32 pm

I put a bit of what we know so far into [[Map tiles]]. Anyone is welcome to add more information as it is determined.
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[New Page] Map tiles

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:44 pm

I have not yet created content for this page, but on it I believe we should cover the following:

  • Definition - Describe it briefly (probably just the into paragraph)
  • Theory of operation - Describe why they exist and how they work (at a basic level)
  • Updates - What does and does not trigger an update
  • Other?

We do know that the following do NOT cause a tile update:
  • Camera updates
Waze has stated that the following WILL cause a tile update in the area of the segment being edited:
  • Turn Restrictions
  • Elevation
  • Lock levels
Since turn restrictions do not change editor, our initial assumption was incorrect that only mods that change the editor name would update the tiles.

I have a pending question asking about whether the following also trigger an update:
  • Adding or editing House Numbers
  • Changes to Street/Alternate/City/State name
  • Adding toll indicator
  • Geometry changes to a segment
  • Adding a new road through WME
  • Adding a new road by paving in the client
  • Adding or editing a landmark

I am awaiting their reply on this list so we can move it to the Wiki.
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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby GadgetJ » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:24 pm

Great feedback on the process. Can you point me to that procedure in writing so that I can learn more?
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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby GadgetJ » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:33 pm

Great discussion. Knowledge is delicious.

I added the Map Tile definition from the Glossary page to the Map Tiles page: Theory of Operation section. It seems to fit that section, but... your thoughts?

Mostly, I wanted to capture the Tile Size on the Map Tiles page as that question comes up often.
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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby Fredo-p » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:28 pm

PesachZ wrote:Keep in mind place area changes don't trigger an update, so it may not have been included in the first batch of updates after you made the change.



A good majority of those place changes, if not all, happen to coincide with segment updates. No, I didn't do a segment update just to trigger a tile update.
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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby Fredo-p » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:39 pm

I can tell you for a fact that Live Map updates are slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed-in street. Maybe we can ask Karen to get an official word from the Devs. Last time I tested, it took 2+ weeks for place area additions/changes to show in Live Map. It also took almost one week for road changes to show.
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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby Fredo-p » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:31 pm

Fredo-p wrote:Did you first get consensus from everyone before you made that change? ;)


Since when did we forget how to take a joke?




Also, will this include Live Map updates as well? I would like to have Lime Maps included in the map updated.
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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby Fredo-p » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:26 am

PesachZ wrote:
voludu2 wrote:and updated the wiki accordingly.


Did you first get consensus from everyone before you made that change? ;)


voludu2 wrote:That is interesting.
So a new area place is immediately available for place search by name.
Or a new alt name, or name change.

But the appearance on the map -- e.g. change to shape -- happens at tile update.

What about name change Appearance on the map for area places? Does that wait for tile update?

What about a segment name change, or addition of a new alt name for the segment?
Is that available for search by road name immediately? Or not until tile update?
Waze app "fulfills" search results for segment name for roads that don't exist in Google. What about for roads that do exist in Google maps?


Any Waze confirmation or test on this? I'm sure there have been enough alt name edits done to prove if this happens or not.
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