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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby sketch » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:04 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
banished wrote:Proposed drawing and North American naming convention here.

https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?resid=C5CF25D868C137D5!1006

I think that's pretty decent. In general a bit detailed for the majority of editors, but I think a fine start to discuss. Should be posted in the wiki discussion forum because it will become part of the wiki.

He also posted it in the US champs forum railroad thread. I assume the idea is to get pre-approval by champs before submitting it to the big wiki forum.

There is some discussion over there.
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby banished » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:31 pm

The discussion was occurring concurrently in both threads. I posted in both so as not to exclude anyone based on their forum permissions. I'm fine if it is consolidated to somewhere that all can access...with the most likely place being a Wiki page.

I'm not an expert on setting up a Wiki page and have no objection if someone who does wants to do that.
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby Dogshrink » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:35 am

I'm probably just reiterating different parts of what others have already stated, but at least my thoughts will be in one place:
1) Railroads are good for navigation on the client, as recognizable points on the map.
2) If the client is used on a train, the path matching the railroad segments should be invalid for paving, miles traveled, and map editor areas.
3) Parallel train and road segments may cause a problem in terms of knowing if the user is on the road or train, but knowable as the entire route will not be parallel to the tracks if on a road. There is an algorithm that coders can figure out.

Those are my thoughts. Use them as you will.
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby sketch » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:37 am

Regarding 3): it shouldn't be a problem for the merger process. The client should snap you to roads, but merger uses the actual GPS data rather than where the client thought you were, and should therefore be able to tell where you are based on your actual path.


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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby no1uknow » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:34 am

Railroads should now be deleted from the editor per:
http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=79708
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby sketch » Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:09 am

no1uknow wrote:Railroads should now be deleted from the editor per:
http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=79708

Not exactly. Railroad segments used as editor notes should be deleted. Railroad segments should be added for actual railroads.


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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby no1uknow » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:59 am

sketch wrote:
no1uknow wrote:Railroads should now be deleted from the editor per:
http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=79708

Not exactly. Railroad segments used as editor notes should be deleted. Railroad segments should be added for actual railroads.


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"To enable the change, we need you to remove such road segments from the map, and make sure new ones are not added to it - Otherwise they’ll appear in the client and confuse users."

I read it as though we are to remove the segments. Please clarify.
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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby dknight212 » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:11 pm

That whole thread was about making railroads visible in the client. It makes no sense then to delete them so they don't show in the client! The only way to read that paragraph is as relating to railroads as notes.

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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby gordonski » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:34 pm

no1uknow wrote:"To enable the change, we need you to remove such road segments from the map, and make sure new ones are not added to it - Otherwise they’ll appear in the client and confuse users."

I read it as though we are to remove the segments. Please clarify.


This will get clearer when reading the whole post:

"Some of you used those roads to mark certain issues on the map.
After enabling those road types in the client, this will of course no longer be possible, as any segment with any text in it’s name will be presented to all app users.
To enable the change, ...
"

The requested deletion only refers to railroads segments that have been "misused" as markers in the editor, e.g. to write something like "do not modifiy segment xyz" to reach editors that don't read the forum.

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Re: Regarding Railroads

Postby petervdveen » Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:38 pm

But it's not going to happen any time soon, so no rush at all to remove them.
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