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Re: Community reorganization

Postby sk2380 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:38 am

davipt wrote:
sk2380 wrote:Hi davipt

As I mentioned in India there are lot many users who are not aware of Forums as such or in other words there are few users who are actively working to make Indian maps more user friendly and economical. To give you an example I have introduced Waze to my 5 friends (all driving freaks) but none of them are using forum or wiki or for that matter WME they just go on drive! When I told them about forums, they were like its very theoretical or might be they found it very confusing.

There are so many Indian UR just mentioned as General Map Error without any details about the error or updates required. This is the lack of information or I might call it BASIC awareness among the users using the app.

I might be wrong but this was the actual situation which I came across.



I'm sure this is the same that happens in every country. Here in Portugal I can count with my fingers the number of minimally active users on the forum. We are now getting some forum traction (the fingers on the second hand) mainly because of some promotion on the Waze Portugal Facebook page. But of course every driver still likes to report general errors without descriptions and create radars everywhere.

I just don't understand why you think this reorg idea could affect this forum behavior. Quite the contrary, having more people with official knowledge actively participating on the forum will hopefully capture more general users into it. I can imagine having only adrian from waze trying to manage the whole forum from Portugal, Brasil and a lot other spanish language countries and the effort for him. Now me and another user try to help as much as we can, and that's the reorg idea - to officialize those helpers.




Hi,
davipt


Thanks for the clarifications... Hope we get best of this reorganization,

Hope to see you around.

Thanks.
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Postby sk2380 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:56 am

aigarslv wrote:
jasonh300 wrote:
aigarslv wrote:I think that 300 forum posts is a bit big number. Especially if you are applying as Android or iPhone expert!


Being heavily active in the forums needs to be a condition for being any type of expert. If you're not known to the community, and accessible via the forums, you won't be able to be an effective expert.



I am known to community ( I edit map, drive a lot, report as much as I can) and I help users as much as I can (I am available to community via PM and I also check forums when I have time). However for Latvia 300 posts is a big number and I do not want to SPAM post for numbers... Or spend my whole life in front of monitor...
Guess what - if I post 1 reply/post per working day - that is makes ONLY 260 posts in one YEAR. And of course PM's don't count.


+1000

This is what I was talking of .... You are absolutely right my dear friend.


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Postby sk2380 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:52 pm

Heisa123 wrote:I want to seriously respond to this topic. :mrgreen:
I'm CM in the Netherlands but work most of waze in other countries

I have make the map of waze in Suriname and have ​​contacts there with users,
https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=2&l ... TTTFTTTTFT
I work at this moment in Luxembourg and the borders of this country.
https://world.waze.com/editor/?lon=6.11 ... TTTFTTTTFT
I have there contact with users .

Now I am working in French Guiana. There lies the whole map broken.
https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=1&l ... TTTFTTTTFT

I also work in a number of other areas where I often go on holiday like this.

https://world.waze.com/editor/?lon=-13. ... TTTFTTTTFT

What is my specialty?? :geek:

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Re: Community reorganization

Postby svx-biker » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:39 pm

Sounds like a good plan Shirli!

Over time we can adjust step by step.
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Re: Community reorganization

Postby the1who » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:39 am

One issue...

I have a problem with the minimum forum post requirement.

Granted you want people to be active...but that should not be a rule and guide by how many forum posts one makes to scale how valuable they are. Example...someone can just go in the unlock forums and type "fixed" all day long to everything and anything, just to drive up their forum posts... I think that should be secondary consideration if some other requirement is not met.

I find it useless sometimes to get involved with every forum post that don't necessarily pertain to contributing. Meaning, I could go and talk everywhere in the forum, and I might not know what I am talking about anyways, and then I ruin my reputation all for the sake that I was trying to build forum post count.

Other part of the equation here is, out of the millions of users, I imagine there are not as many active users who could care about the forums. Not to say they shouldn't be up to date with information from user experiences and reports, to planning and organization. It is just that for that to be listed number one for each requirement for this new direction, it puts those who have been active just in different ways, out on the door step.

With that being said, I imagine the responsibility by Waze to continually admin users and managers of millions of users, is probably going to be handled best by local AM's and CM's. So I applaud this direction. So I look forward to these design improvements and the better of the community and app at large. But please, the forum posts shouldn't be in my opinion, the only reason here, or I envision more useless posts will start to propagate, which really won't be beneficial but more of a nuisance I do believe. Thanks!
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Re: Community reorganization

Postby the1who » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:34 am

I agree with what was being said there. I wasn't going to try to create an argument or flame war etc, just to emphasize what jhfrtonz said, someone may have already posted fluently about the topic already, me just adding to the thread, makes the posts get deeper and deeper. At some level we need to keep it simple.

Second part, not to self bloat, but the USA is made up more than just states, it is rather regional in some regards, like the Midwest. Until recently, editor activity was rather sporadic if not minimum here. Granted some other states have had more rock solid foundations with editors of all levels working together. But that hasn't really been the case here in the Midwest. I have some CM's neighboring, but it probably isn't overlaid as deep as say probably CA or Boston? I appreciate the new levels of help that I have been getting here lately with new AM's and it seems a new CM or two, but to assign someone this area more responsibility over me because they have posted more in the forums, sort of puts me on the porch if you get what I am saying.

I feel like there is a fine line being walked here, some are going to feel it more than others. Until mapcat's freeway adventures, I had strived to connect major metropolitan areas here by correctly making the freeway structure more prevalent. To have a system that overrules all of my efforts because of forum posts would chaff me a bit.

I am sure it will all get sorted out. I look forward to change, it will be healthy for the community and us all. I just hope some things are grandfathered in here.

Edit: I don't want to distract where we are going here, I felt like I was rambling a bit there, but I hope that someone at least follows what I am saying there...let me know, thanks.
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