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Post by orbitc
I'm waiting for:
Sp
A.T.&T.
Alt
St. Middle St

Those were added last night, so in a couple of days, they'll hit the client and I can test them out. I'm going to try out some combos of "S 1st St W" to see what I get.
Are we getting mix messages?
Wajo357 tested with Avenue S. that yield South.
Someone else tested that it worked.
Perhaps, the reason for this is that we were testing a single letter. More concern with the directional letters. Not combinations of letters like A.T.T.
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Post by orbitc
Thanks a lot for these extensive tests GizmoGuy411.

As you may know, we've tested couple of options as well. I believe, -if that's OK to proceed- we should go ahead and change those roads with single letter like Avenue S to Avenue 'S'. It seems that's the general consensus at this point.

Also, one might argue, while we are fixing Avenue 'S', why not change it to Ave 'S'
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Post by orbitc
Like I said, that's the general consensus at this point. More people seem to prefer single quotes as well.

In order to address the local issue here, we should start naming just those 4 letters using single quote without shortening the name.
Like this:

Avenue S will be: Ave 'S'
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Post by orbitc
We will start changing N, E, W, S letters in NY and NJ starting Monday.
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Post by orbitc
xteejx,
Couldn't agree more.

I'm sure, you've seen that we've been testing these in the past 2 weeks. We're also working close with some of the Waze Champs.

Without Waze doing anything initially, we'll fix our local issue by renaming those letters (N,S,E,W) with single letters. Currently, Avenue S in NY pronounced as Avenue South, which is wrong.

Our final conclusion is to use this format:

Avenue S will be Ave 'S'
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Post by orbitc
GizmoGuy411 wrote:
Please wait until the results are in for all of these before changing any segment names.

They were entered into WME 2013-02-03 05:30 UTC, so the results may not be available until Monday. I'll will try to audio test them as soon as they are incorporated into the map updates.
OK. We'll wait for you.
thanks
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Post by orbitc
GizmoGuy411 wrote:Regarding "Avenue S", I feel that since the word "Avenue" is not used as a suffix, and that it is used in this case more as a proper noun and not as an adjective, that it probably should remain spelled out, which would mean the name entry would be [Avenue 'S'], even though it implicitly implies that the road is an avenue.
Agreed. I'll keep them as you suggested. Again, we'll wait for you before we do any changes.
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Post by orbitc
Wajo357 wrote: Keep in mind current Brooklyn Ave names use Ave and not Avenue. Furthermore, I believe street signs say Ave not Avenue. Why fix it if it Ain't broke? My vote is to leave Ave as is and just deal with the s.
I think, I need to clarify this:

We are not changing anything. Especially, anything like Brooklyn Ave to Brooklyn Avenue.

My response was keeping Avenue same as it was when it's Avenue S.
GizmoGuy411 wrote:Regarding "Avenue S", I feel that since the word "Avenue" is not used as a suffix, and that it is used in this case more as a proper noun and not as an adjective, that it probably should remain spelled out, which would mean the name entry would be [Avenue 'S'], even though it implicitly implies that the road is an avenue.

As an example, there is a road near me called "West Course Road". I have it named in Waze as [West Course Rd] rather than [W Course Rd]. The word "West" in this case is part of the proper noun for the name of the road, and NOT a cardinal prefix adjective.
So, Brooklyn Ave stays as is. Once we have to go ahead from GizmoGuy411 we'll start changing those directional letters.
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Post by orbitc
I think, in our case we wanted to keep Avenue as "Avenue" since it's a proper noun.
Ex: Avenue S is the actual street name. Therefore, we are NOT changing to Ave S
Also, Colony Crossing is an actual street name, therefore, it should be Colony Crossing.
More importantly, We never suggested to change general "Ave" abbreviations to "Avenue"
Ex: Main Ave still remains as Main Ave
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