[Script] UROverview Plus v3.45 (20150505)

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Re: [Script] UROverview Plus v3.27 (20141016)

Postby PesachZ » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:22 am

Taco909 wrote:
PesachZ wrote:Just make any UR, through livemap or the client, and start the description with the tag for example [NOTE].

EDIT like this one. Unfortunately you need edit privileges in an area to see the URs, so you may not be able to see this.

Ya, can't see it.

Interesting... what is the closure policy on [NOTE]?

Any special URs should be closed only after the conditions they describe expired, sometimes indefinitely. A [CLOSURE] or [EVENT] UR for example can safely be closed say a week after the closure expires, if there is no continuing conversation.

[CONSTRUCTION] and [ROADWORKS] Should remain until they no longer provide helpful info. Say a UR was left to alert editors that roads have changed here from the sat view. It could be closed after the sat view images updated.

Some [NOTE]s describe permanent obscurities of the map, and should ONLY be closed when the no longer apply, usually by the reporter them self. Or someone of sufficient rank and skill to understand the original issue, and that it no longer applies.

This being said, apart from closures and events I wouldn't close any other special URs without a comment to the original reporter and 7 day wait.

*The above is my own opinion, and does necessarily represent the community consensus view, or Waze as a whole.

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Re: [Script] UROverview Plus v3.27 (20141016)

Postby PesachZ » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:13 pm

Taco909 wrote:
PesachZ wrote:
Taco909 wrote:Interesting... what is the closure policy on [NOTE]?

Any special URs should be closed only after the conditions they describe expired, sometimes indefinitely. A [CLOSURE] or [EVENT] UR for example can safely be closed say a week after the closure expires, if there is no continuing conversation.

I should have been more specific.

I meant from the Waze side of things... is there anything to prevent an L1 on a "7 day rule" closing spree from closing them?

Well not really. You can send a gentle but firm welcome PM to that editor with clear links to the wiki/UR#Not identified page section which discusses the criteria for closing URs. The "7 day rule" is for stagnant URs with not enough information to determine the problem. Is the problem is clearly described, and you personally just don't have the ability, skill, or knowledge to fix it, there is no "7 day rule".

With these URs they are usually very descriptive of the problem, the reporter is usually an experienced (somewhat at least) editor and will usually respond to conversation replies and PMs within 7 days. So unless the problem they define no longer applies - there is a problem, which the new editor can't fix, and therefore by guidelines the UR should be left alone.

If there's a recurring or damaging problem from an editor, who isn't responding to a well written professional PM with links to the guidelines in the wiki, and an explanation of why what they are doing isn't good. Then it needs to be escalated to the RC so they can be educated or restricted from further damaging the map.

As ian mentioned when these are closed, the reporter gets an email with a link to the UR and the text, it only takes a few clicks to replace them. Talking from experience

TwisterUK was very kind to give us an arsenal of tools for handling the 'clutter issue as well. These URs have different types and icons, and are immediately identified as not something you have to try to solve. They can hidden from view as a group by type if the clutter hurts your eyes.

I requested earlier (which started this mini off-topic rant) and I'll paraphrase here The option for these URs to display the special icon to anyone with URO+ installed should be Checked (on) by default. This has garnered some support, and hopefully can be implemented making these more visible to editors on a close and don't read spree stay away from them.

As a side this discussion is only tangentially related to the script and I apologize for the long detailed response. I had no intention of hijacking the thread. Back to regular scheduled programming. If this UR closure discussion must continue, it should be moved to the WME forum.

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Re: [Script] UROverview Plus v3.29 (20141026)

Postby PesachZ » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:47 pm

Twister-UK wrote:I can look into making it relocate the current session instead when the "same tab" link is selected, so that chat, unsaved edits etc are preserved.

+1 That would be wonderful.
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Re: [Script] UROverview Plus v3.31 (20141103)

Postby PesachZ » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:59 am

Twister-UK wrote:It could be two URs stacked on top of one another...

Possibly related I've been having issues with URs where I comment and solve, the bubble turns green, and after I save the UR is there again open with no comments. I attributed it to a local PC problem, but thought I'd mention it in case it helps you debug.
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Re: [Script] UROverview Plus v3.31 (20141103)

Postby PesachZ » Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:00 am

Thortok2000 wrote:Yeah I'm pegging that as duplicate UR's.

With it selected do a permalink and see if the code in the URL changes, if it does, it's a different UR.

Same UR ID when it happens to me

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Re: [Script] UROverview Plus v3.31 (20141103)

Postby PesachZ » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:58 pm

Olestas wrote:I just comment on one, and close all the others.


Olestas wrote:There is WME UR-MP tracking script, it shows all URs in list and has distances. I think it might be possible to detect that URs are all in like 1m radius, and should be closed or hidden...

If they are all from the same reporter (same time, comment, identical GPS traces) that seems fine. However if they happen to be stacked, but from different reporters, it seems unfair to the reporters who sent a legitimate report to have it coded with no comment, and follow up or closure.

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Re: [Script] UROverview Plus v3.31 (20141103)

Postby PesachZ » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:57 pm

taco909 wrote:That is the problem in Los Angeles. We need to be in at Zoom-2 or 3 to pick up the oldest URs.
WME filters by age as you zoom out and get too many on the screen, so at Zoom-0 over Los Angeles, you pretty much only see yellow and orange. Filter anything older than 14 days and it's blank.

The same goes for NYC, at least up until two weeks ago. MapRaid! NY fixed that issue, but I digress.

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Re: [Script] UROverview Plus v3.31 (20141103)

Postby PesachZ » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:29 am

FYI I think the limit set for displayed URs by WME is 500, (before URO+ filters obviously)

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Re: [Script] UROverview Plus v3.32 (20141217)

Postby PesachZ » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:47 am

Thank you, that was fast

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Re: [Script] UROverview Plus v3.32 (20141217)

Postby PesachZ » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:55 pm

Twister-UK wrote:
Fredo-p wrote:I don't know if this URO did this, but, with the recent update, WME is now a lot lighter than before. Personally, I preferred the darker color of the editor.


Yes, that's an undocumented fix in URO - when you deselect the white background option it sets the colour back to the default WME colour, but until this release it was using the darker grey that WME originally used when the grey background was first introduced. It now uses the lighter grey to match the present WME colour scheme...

It'd be trivial to include an option to use the darker grey as well, or even to make the background colour user definable - I'll add it to the to do list for the next release.

I love the user controlled option, but even the dark grey would be nice, thanks

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