iainhouse wrote:impulse200 wrote:I wonder why not to integrate Validator and Toolbox features strait into the WME? Those two are already must have for any editor out there.
There are a couple of reasons.
The most important reason, by far, is simply that nobody at Waze HQ is a heavy or regular editor. This is readily apparent from all the obstacles and broken workflows they have thrown at us over the years; from the fact that the WME UI is plainly designed for use on large, high resolution screens.
As a result, they have little or no idea of what tools will actually be helpful to us. Validator and Toolbox (and other scripts) are provided by
people who actually edit the map. They know what they would find useful, then go and develop it.
I'll give you a prime example: editor notes on the map. I proposed having a special type of UR
here back in 2014, and that wasn't the first proposal along those lines. Waze never responded. Instead, we started adding URs with [TAGS] in the text. URO+ added the ability to provide custom icons for tagged URs. 2½ years later this system is used across the world. This summer, at various meetups, Waze have finally admitted that some sort of editor note system is needed and is under development.
And that brings me to the other reason why these scripts aren't part of WME:
responsiveness. It's taken literally years to get an Editor Note facility added to WME - and it's not here yet. But if you want a new ability for WME
from a script you can just ask. If someone who can write a script thinks it's a good idea, there could be a new script within days, or a new feature added to an existing script. Waze HQ will
never match the level of response provided by the script writers.
Right now, we're going through the regular painful period after a WME update. I know that Toolbox and URO+ have already been updated, as I'm sure some other scripts have. Within a week or so, most scripts will have been fixed. Yes, a Validator update is likely to be slow because the author doesn't have much time for Waze nowadays. But here, "slow" might mean a few weeks.
Compared to Waze HQ, where slow might mean a few years!There is no way I would like to hand over control of what I consider critical parts of the editing experience to Waze HQ. I'd rather it stayed in the hands of people like us - who actually edit and care about our experience and the experience of other editors..