External Links Copyright Discussion
But why google?? And Waze livemap? At least put livemap back... it was very useful.
They are about to release a new editor with integrated Google maps adding automatically house numbers, etc. I suppose they want the feature to be somehow exclusive?Olestas wrote:Thanks, did not know thisPizuz wrote: You can click the Livemap link in the top menu bar which brings you to the current location on the livemap.
But still, waze uses satellites, addresses and places from google maps and mapmaker. Why are these not allowed?
If further emphasis is needed see here.PesachZ wrote:To do so they will, as they have already done in the past, revert the map of that entire area (possibly even the entire country) back to the basemap import.
Well again I don't think the link button rises to the level of copying, but waze is going to stay far away from the line of what is prohibited to reduce the risk that anyone will accuse it of encouraging editors to cross the line. However, there is plenty of information on Google maps that is not the satellite or SV imagery available in WME. I don't know how Google structures its agreements with its data providers, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me if creating new commercial databases is not permitted under some of those agreements.SuperDave1426 wrote:How is a link button to bring up Google Maps view in another tab violating anything WRT Google Maps?
No that's not correct. What allows the second recording is that copyright infringement requires copying. So if you have never heard a prior recording to the Bach symphony and you then record it, you cannot be copying the prior recording.SuperDave1426 wrote:While they can copyright the presentation of that public information, they cannot copyright the public information itself. If they could, nobody would ever be able to record a new presentation of any of Bach's symphonies as long as there's a current recording of it that's copyrighted.
What makes you so sure? If you do that from a protected data compilation in a jurisdiction with a broad sweat of the brow doctrine why would it not be a violation.SuperDave1426 wrote:Doing a visual check (with your eyes) to confirm a publicly-available street name and then making a change elsewhere manually isn't the same thing as an actual copy would be.
What has this to to with Copyright? It opens another Browser-Window with GoogleMaps or something else. The same as i open the window manually. I think i de-install the toolbox. Or better - quit the editing of waze-maps completely.jasonh300 wrote:The removal of the links to Google and Bing and other external sources is absolutely 100% about copyright. We've been warned not to use copyrighted sources for years. It's been in the Wiki for years. An entire country lost all its maps because of copyright infringement before and we don't want that to ever happen again.AdreNalinGuY wrote:CBenson, this is clearly not because of copyright. The removal of the live map link doesn't make no sense. There is something else in between but we will never know what. They don't treat us respectfully for what we do for them, we don't have to know much. Do your job and shut up. At least this is how I feel.
As far as the Livemap link, I don't know. There's no reason for that to have been removed.