[TERM CHANGE - ACROSS WIKI] Avoid the word *SPLIT*

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[TERM CHANGE - ACROSS WIKI] Avoid the word *SPLIT*

Postby PesachZ » Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:35 am

There have been many post and discussions bemoaning the ambiguity of the term "split road", and its usage in the Waze vernacular. Here is one example. There have already been some changes to the wiki namely the splitting a road section, to move away from split road to divided road.

The default definition of the term "split" currently in Waze refers to a divided roadway. The MUTCD uses the term "split" to refer to a road or a lane forking into two roads or lanes heading in the same direction to different destinations. This shows how wrong our usage of the word split is.
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The term "split" as used throughout Waze can refer to;
  • A divided road (two one-way carriageways making up a single road)
  • A fork in the road (where a road going in one direction diverges into two separate roads to different destinations, e.g. a wayfinder)
  • Cutting a segment to add a junction node in middle, thereby making it into two segments

Given it pervasiveness through Waze it is recommended we cease to use the term entirely, remove it from all documentation, and replace it with better descriptive terms. If and when the term "split" eventually falls out of common usage among editors, it can then be reinstated in our documentation to refer to its proper meaning, as defined by the MUTCD; a fork or divergence of a road.

We can search the wiki and make the replacements wherever the term *split* exists, and eradicate split entirely from our documentation. The term "split" (and all its derivatives) can be replaced throughout our documentation with the appropriate terms (and their derivatives) from the following list:
  • Split (verb) > Convert a two-way road into a divided road, alternatively we can use "divided road" in conversation
  • Unsplit (verb) > Convert a divided road into a a two-way road, alternatively we can use "non-divided road" in conversation
  • Split Road (noun) > Divided Road EDIT: We can also mention on the main discussion that this is a "Dual Carriageway" for our friends across the pond.
  • Split (a segment) > Cut (a segment)
  • Road Split > Fork in the road, road forked, divergence

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Once we choose to do this, we should also make a glossary entry for the term "Split" with {{Anchor}}s for derivative terms (unsplit, etc.) explaining that its usage has been deprecated, and why. with a link to a disambiguation page for "Split".

The disambiguation page will have links to the relevant pages/sections for each of the terms possible definitions.

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All in favor please show your support below. If you have any comments/critiques please make them known, otherwise we would like to start implementing this change in one week.
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Re: [TERM CHANGE - ACROSS WIKI] Avoid the word *SPLIT*

Postby voludu2 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:24 pm

I think this is a good idea, and the disambiguation page will really help, because it will briefly define or explain each term and link to a useful page for it.

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Re: [TERM CHANGE - ACROSS WIKI] Avoid the word *SPLIT*

Postby orbitc » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:48 pm

Looks good PZ
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Re: [TERM CHANGE - ACROSS WIKI] Avoid the word *SPLIT*

Postby kentsmith9 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:41 pm

I started the DAB for Split. Since we will be replacing the words in the final links from Split to something else, we need to hold off including the links on this DAB page until those are done. Then we add the links to this page.
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Re: [TERM CHANGE - ACROSS WIKI] Avoid the word *SPLIT*

Postby ottonomy » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:57 am

The ambiguity of split has plagued our conversations long enough. I'm very glad to see this change coming to pass. You've got my vote on this, Pesach!
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Re: [TERM CHANGE - ACROSS WIKI] Avoid the word *SPLIT*

Postby voludu2 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:39 pm

I'm going to suggest that this particular disambiguation page be pitched slightly differently from the usual, as we are trying to avoid the use of "split"

* begin by saying this is a term we are avoiding because it has caused confusion -- this term is deprecated.

Then, in each line, we would use the preferred term and not use split at all on the rest of the page.

I am willing to make this change to the page, if that is OK.

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Re: [TERM CHANGE - ACROSS WIKI] Avoid the word *SPLIT*

Postby kentsmith9 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:43 pm

Can you put the proposed changes on the talk page just so we can see what you mean and how it would look?

Then we can just cut and paste the changes after everyone is good.
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Re: [TERM CHANGE - ACROSS WIKI] Avoid the word *SPLIT*

Postby voludu2 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:47 pm

Done. Please feel free to improve wording, especially in the first paragraph.

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Re: [TERM CHANGE - ACROSS WIKI] Avoid the word *SPLIT*

Postby PesachZ » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:55 pm

voludu2 wrote:I'm going to suggest that this particular disambiguation page be pitched slightly differently from the usual, as we are trying to avoid the use of "split"

* begin by saying this is a term we are avoiding because it has caused confusion -- this term is deprecated.

Then, in each line, we would use the preferred term and not use split at all on the rest of the page.

I am willing to make this change to the page, if that is OK.

I think it's important for backwards compatibility to at least map which new term each of the old terms refer to. So on the line about converting to a divided highway it would say something like:
* Converting a two-way road to a divided roadway (a dual carriageway) this has previously been referred to as "splitting a road"

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Re: [TERM CHANGE - ACROSS WIKI] Avoid the word *SPLIT*

Postby voludu2 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:41 pm


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