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Toll penalty based on toll price - Now available on Live map

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Hey all,

As showed it in the global meetup last month - Toll penalty based on toll price - now available on Live map - and your feedback will be much appreciated!

How does it work?

On the live map you can now do the following:
1. See the toll prices per route
2. Adjust the toll penalty to reflect the toll price

:arrow: To see the toll price you should add in the url the following string: &rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t

:arrow: To adjust the toll penalty to reflect the toll price, you should add to the url the following 2 params:
&rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t&rp_tollPriceUserVector=USD,1,120,3,240,5,420

The values of the rp_tollPriceUserVector should include the following:
1. Currency of the toll road that is being tested
2. Toll price diff between routes in the currency from #1
3. Number of seconds of penalty for the difference in #2

***#2 and #3 can continue as you wish, as in the example above.

Required feedback:
To start with, we would like to set this param per country / state and experiment it with the users. We would love to get your feedback on how this parameter should be set in your country / state, given the local toll prices and possible roads.

Thank you & Enjoy,
Hezi

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I can't get this to work, trying either routing server. The prices do not display, and the penalty is not evident. Can you give an example Live Map URL where this can be seen?
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Post by Inactive user -1697532064-
OK, now I see it, and I got the penalties working too. I had tried rp_id=beta before but maybe didn't notice the price inside parentheses in the route description
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Post by abusimbel16
I have tried everything too, without success. I already thought the error is in front of keyboard :shock:
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one little Step :)
If I start livemap with https://www.waze.com/livemap?rp_options ... L_PRICES:t

in the routing_request is now the option "USE_TOLL_PRICEC" :) but I get no Prices ....
So we wait for Staff :)
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by jm6087 » 10 Oct 2019, 14:28
It appears you have to share the route first and then add the toll details.
or start LiveMap with:

https://www.waze.com/livemap/?rp_option ... rp_id=beta
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HeziBez wrote:To adjust the toll penalty to reflect the toll price, you should add to the url the following 2 params:
&rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t&rp_tollPriceUserVector=USD,1,120,3,240,5,420

The values of the rp_tollPriceUserVector should include the following:
1. Currency of the toll road that is being tested
2. Toll price diff between routes in the currency from #1
3. Number of seconds of penalty for the difference in #2

***#2 and #3 can continue as you wish, as in the example above.
This is great, but I still have a couple of questions:
how are the penalties computed exactly?
If I have 2 routes with a 5,50€ difference and I set:
0,10€ -> 5s of penalty
0,50€ -> 60s of penalty
5€ -> 600s of penalty
5.60€ -> 700s of penalty

What penalty would the second route get?
Only the larger one that is below it? (5€ = 600s)
Or 5€ + 0,50€ (660s?) - (If it would have been 5,40: 5€ + 4x0,10€ = 600s + 20s?)
The closest one? (700s)
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HeziBez wrote: :arrow: To see the toll price you should add in the url the following string: &rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t
This doesn't seem to work, anymore (even with rp_id=beta). It actually looks like the livemap does not return beta routes anymore, even if that parameter is provided.
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Post by bedo2991
I see, but in this case, they can't blame it on confidentiality if this is posted by a staff member on a public forum.
The live map was a very useful tool to check and debug this functionality.

After some deeper checks, the livemap still sends all given parameters to the routing server, which seems to ignore them. So it's a Routing Server issue / terrible WAD.
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Post by goncalovm76
Hugo_Moreira wrote:I'll just leave my feedback about the penalty applied to toll/non toll segments transition. Not about this way to check it.

(...)

- If the penalty persists, I would suggest that each country could decide to switch them off and on.
- In Portugal, we had significant change in routing since implementing the tolls. The solution to this changes may require to change lots of roads in the country, to bypass it.
Hi everyone. I totally agree with @Hugo_Moreira. We are getting a log of complains already concerning the Waze routing choices by not driving them through the fastest way.

Please consider to turn the tolls penalties ON or OFF for each Country, according to each local community decision.

Cheers, and best regards,
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