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Road classification for Malaysia - please use in editing!

Post by a4xrbj1
Work in progress - please use this road classification if you work on building the map for Malaysia:

Latest version is always accessible here: https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=gr ... 3990433954

1) Freeways
Those are highways that are connecting cities and span sometimes across whole Malaysia (like NSE), they all have an Exxxx to start with. Color coding on Google Maps is a darker Orange color

E1 North-South Expressway (NSE Northern Route)
E1 New Klang Valley Expressway (NKVE)
E2 North-South Expressway (NSE Southern Route)
E3 Second Link Expressway (LINKEDUA)
E6 North-South Expressway Central Link (NSECL/ELITE)
E8 East Coast Expressway (ECE/LPT)
E8 Karak Expressway
E20 Maju Expressway (MEX)
E21 Kajang-Seremban Highway (KASEH/LEKAS)
E22 Penang Second Bridge Expressway
E33 Duta-Ulu Klang Expressway (DUKE)
E36 Penang Bridge Expressway
E38 SMART Tunnel Expressway

1.1) Freeways Exit Number
Please refer Wiki for the E1, E2 & E6:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North%E2%8 ... ,_Malaysia
 
For E3 Second Link Expressway (LINKEDUA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Link_Expressway
 
E6 Putra Jaya Link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putrajaya_Link
 
For E8 Karak Expressway & East Coast Expressway (ECE/LPT)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lump ... Expressway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Coast_Expressway
 
For E20 Maju Expressway (MEX)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maju_Expressway
 
For E21 Kajang-Seremban Highway (KASEH/LEKAS)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kajang%E2% ... an_Highway
 
For E22 Penang Second Bridge Expressway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penang_Second_Bridge
 
For E33 Duta-Ulu Klang Expressway (DUKE)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duta_%E2%8 ... Expressway
 
For E36 Penang Bridge Expressway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penang_Bridge
 
For E38 SMART Tunnel Expressway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMART_Tunnel
 
2) Major Highways
All the remaining expressways with an Exxxx coding in front of their name (like DUKE), usually have 3+ lanes, minimal stops. Color coding on Google Maps is a Grey/Green color
 
E5 Shah Alam Expressway (SAE/KESAS)
E7 Cheras - Kajang Expressway (CKE)
E9 Sungai Besi Expressway (SBE/BESRAYA)
E9 Shamelin Expressway
E10 New Pantai Expressway (NPE)
E11 Damansara-Puchong Expressway (LDP)
E12 Ampang-Kuala Lumpur Elevated Highway (AKLEH)
E13 Kemuning-Shah Alam Highway
E14 JB Eastern Dispersal Link
E15 Butterworth-Kulim Expressway (BKE)
E17 Butterworth Outer Ring Road (BORR)
E18 Kajang Dispersial Link Expressway (SILK)
E19 Ipoh-Lumut Expressway
E22 Senai–Desaru Expressway
E23 Sprint Expressway
E25 Kuala Lumpur – Kuala Selangor Expressway (LATAR)
E26 South Klang Valley Expressway (SKVE)
E27 Lebuhraya Hubungan Timur Barat
E28 West Coast Expressway
E29 Seremban-Port Dickson Highway (SPDH)
E30 New North Klang Straits Bypass (NNKSB)
E35 Guthrie Corridor Expressway (GCE)
E37 East-West Link Expressway (Salak Expressway)
E37 Kuala Lumpur - Seremban Expressway
 
2.1) Major Highway Exit Numbers
 
For E5 Shah Alam Expressway (SAE/KESAS)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Alam_Expressway
 
For E7 Cheras - Kajang Expressway (CKE)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheras%E2% ... Expressway
 
For E9 Sungai Besi Expressway (SBE/BESRAYA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sungai_Besi_Expressway
 
For E10 New Pantai Expressway (NPE)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Pantai_Expressway
 
For E11 Damansara-Puchong Expressway (LDP)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damansara- ... Expressway
 
For E12 Ampang-Kuala Lumpur Elevated Highway (AKLEH)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampang_%E2 ... ed_Highway
 
For E13 Kemuning-Shah Alam Highway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemuning_% ... am_Highway
 
For E14 JB Eastern Dispersal Link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JB_Eastern_Dispersal_Link
 
For E15 Butterworth-Kulim Expressway (BKE)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterwort ... Expressway
 
For E17 Butterworth Outer Ring Road (BORR)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterwort ... _Ring_Road
 
For E18 Kajang Dispersial Link Expressway (SILK)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kajang_Dis ... Expressway
 
For E19 Ipoh-Lumut Expressway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipoh%E2%80 ... Expressway
 
For E23 Sprint Expressway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Expressway
 
E22 Senai–Desaru Expressway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senai%E2%8 ... Expressway
 
For E25 Kuala Lumpur – Kuala Selangor Expressway (LATAR)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lump ... Expressway
 
For E26 South Klang Valley Expressway (SKVE)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Klan ... Expressway
 
For E28 West Coast Expressway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_Expressway
 
For E29 Seremban-Port Dickson Highway (SPDH)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seremban-P ... on_Highway
 
For E30 New North Klang Straits Bypass (NNKSB)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_North_ ... its_Bypass
 
For E35 Guthrie Corridor Expressway (GCE)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guthrie_Co ... Expressway
 
For E37 East-West Link Expressway (Salak Expressway) (Please update yourself as no exit number from Wiki Page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80 ... Expressway
 
 
3) Minor Highways
All the remaining highways like MRR2. All highways classified as Federal Routes (JKR), labeled with only numbers from 1 till currently 3374, and State Routes, labeled with a state-code prefix (same as state car registration letters) followed by route number. Please do put those numbers IN FRONT of the road names, not at the end. Also, don't put any SPACE between the letter of the state road and the number itself, so it's P17 and not P 17. Thank you!
 
Examples are:
 
26 KLIA Expressway
28 Jalan Lingkaran Tengah 2 (MRR2)
(Perak state route) A151 Jalan Sultan Abdullah
(Selangor State Route) B27 Jalan Batu Arang
 
3.1) Minor Highway Resources
You can find list of federal routes and reference maps for Malaysia here:
http://www.kkr.gov.my/ms/jalan/senarai-peta
 
3.2 Minor Highway Exit Number
 
For '2' Federal Highway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Highway,_Malaysia
 
4) Primary roads
All the roads not named in 1-3 and still color orange in Google Maps. Examples are:
 
Jalan Kuching in Kuala Lumpur
 
5) Ramps
When traffic moves between two roads or highways that are at different grades without the use of traffic lights or stop signs, they use ramps. The typical example is the on-ramps or off-ramps of a highway. Roads connecting a highway with a rest/service/parking area should be treated as ramps as well and named accordingly (e.g. "Exit to Service Area").
When traffic moves between two roads that are at the same grade, these connecting segments are not technically ramps to Waze. These cases should be treated as At-Grade Connectors. Access roads to highways at the same grade are service roads (see below)

Only exception from the above rule of Same-Grade-Connector should be a ramp if it's a signed, numbered exit of a highway (like Exit 116 Rawang on E1 North-South Expressway (NSE Northern Route).
 
6) Street
all other regular streets
 
7) Service Roads
These are streets that are typically adjacent to a freeway (or major highway). Also called Frontage roads in some states. These could be access roads to the highway itself, but have the property of a regular or primary street.
 
8) Private Roads
A road that is not open to the public. You can drive on it, physically, but there may be legal (and physical) restrictions or it is a privately maintained road on private land.
 
9) Road Cities
Parks (Taman), Zone and suburbs should not be used for the City field when marking your roads. A good indicator is if the area has a city council or municipal council, use the name of the city or municipal council.
 
9a) Road City Resources
9a.i) Sabah
Refer to http://gis.glob.com.my:8008/map/ to see where city boundaries are. Please note that the street names on this map may not be entirely accurate. However, the street names here more often than not is more accurate than the one found in Google Maps.
 
Please follow these guidelines on all accounts, as otherwise your work needs to be corrected again and will create doublework. Don't use CAPITAL LETTER ONLY, besides being regarded as rude this is also not in line with GPS tools naming conventions and Google Maps.
 
Please do use the above name only, no other than these official names. If you have other names (eg known only known to locals) use the alternative names field in Waze edit. If you are not sure about changing the name of a road, it is best to ask in the Waze forum or here in the Facebook group.
 
Lastly, do check Google Maps a lot for how to write a road segment, if it's eg a normal street or primary street instead (Orange color).
 
Thanks for your cooperation,
 
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Post by a4xrbj1
hooijack wrote:Yup, be careful when naming roads based on Google Maps. it's not error free. I cross check against Mapsource everytime.
Show me some examples guys. I heard that already several times from you, Jack. Apart from some Jalan 33/11k instead 33/11m I haven't seen any error and Mapsource isn't available to all (eg to me).

As gvmsia said the signboards are bad and input bad data is adding confusion. I didn't know as a foreigner that Lebuhraya Persekutuan is indeed the Federal Highway everybody was talking about. If you have problems with local names missing, then use the additional names field, that's what it intended for ;-)

Just my two cents,

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Two things to add:

1) I'm using the official Wikipedia entry for the names, not Google Maps as you might think:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ex ... n_Malaysia

2) As much as I welcome some activity on this forum, I'd welcome some help on the now 2500+ updates requests that have piled up and are getting more each hour. Not mentioning the thousands of map errors clearly indicated in the new editor that are causing wrong routing and result in update requests.

I'd very much welcome your help on point no 2 rather than an almost academical discussion about how we should name roads. Hope you don't mind my openness, this is just my opinion!

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Please do note that we've agreed in the Wazer user group to classify ALL state roads as minor highways from now on. That should make the decision much easier.

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hockguan84 wrote:
a4xrbj1 wrote:Please do note that we've agreed in the Wazer user group to classify ALL state roads as minor highways from now on. That should make the decision much easier.

Thanks for your cooperation,

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how do we know that it is a state road?
State roads have a letter in front followed by a number, like B5. Please check our FAQ in the Facebook group

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Post by a4xrbj1
Andrew,


can you please update the Wikipedia with the right information? Wikipedia lives from volunteers adding and updating/correcting information, instead of just pointing out errors you could help make it a better source!

Wikipedia can become the best source for highways and exits in Malaysia if people like you work on it, it's already the best lexicon in the world thanks to it's many editors.

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gvmsia wrote:
a4xrbj1 wrote: Show me some examples guys. I heard that already several times from you, Jack. Apart from some Jalan 33/11k instead 33/11m I haven't seen any error
aiyoh bro andreas... i see u still cant take a difference of opinion. google and wiki are full of errors. the reason people dont quote more examples is maybe coz they have better things to do with their time. :roll:
+1

The list of exits in the wikipedia article for Federal Highway is wrong. The exit numbers and names from Subang Jaya until Jalan Gasing are all wrong. Same also for the Sprint Highway wikipedia article. Damansara Utama exit number is 2310 and not 2307. There may be even more mistakes elsewhere and for other highways. I myself made this mistake of over-relying on Wikipedia until a couple of months ago when I saw it with my own eyes. :oops:

As stated by gvmsia, matching the actual signboards as closely as possible should overrule Wikipedia, GMaps, Garmin, etc when it comes to naming because the driver is going to look for the signboard that matches the Waze instructions. If anyone comes across an exit or road name that doesn't match whatever online source or GPS you're using, DON'T overwrite it without contacting the editor first and finding out his/her source.

PS:
As for major highway names, no driver is going to care that the official name of the highway in Wikipedia is 'North-South Expressway Central Link (NSECL/ELITE) blah blah blah', and they're not going to care if the official Wikipedia name appears on Waze or not, because it's colloquially known to every driver as just 'ELITE'. Same with 'NKVE', 'LDP', 'KESAS', 'DUKE' etc. And then we only need to add the highway code E6 because this helps with matching the highway code on the signboards, hence 'E6 ELITE', 'E1 NKVE' and 'E11 LDP'. Short and sweet.

Also, you will never find 'North-South Expressway Central Link (NSECL/ELITE)' on a signboard, because LLM will never use English names on their signboards. ;)
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Alas, I find the rules of editing Wikipedia articles (citation required, etc.) to be even more arcane and indecipherable than Waze. :oops:
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Post by gvmsia
thanks for the classifications. it will help us standardise the road categories.

please note...
- the names u used dont match the signage
- IMHO names should reflect the signboard. look at it practically... a driver needs more help from waze when going thru unfamiliar roads. if the visual cues (signboard, gps screen) match, it will make the drive easier.
just imagine if the driver is from another country... lebuhraya utara selatan and north south expressway will look like very different roads.
- malaysian signboards are screwed up too, but if we follow this, at least drivers will see the same sh!t on the signboard as well as waze.
- google maps contains many errors, so please be weary of using it as the only guide.
- alternate names dont really matter during navigation.
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a4xrbj1 wrote: Show me some examples guys. I heard that already several times from you, Jack. Apart from some Jalan 33/11k instead 33/11m I haven't seen any error
aiyoh bro andreas... i see u still cant take a difference of opinion. google and wiki are full of errors. the reason people dont quote more examples is maybe coz they have better things to do with their time. :roll:
a4xrbj1 wrote: and Mapsource isn't available to all (eg to me).
hooijack was referring to malfree/malsing maps loaded onto mapsource software. i think he presumed u would know that. if u dont have mapsource, just look at ur garmin, papago, whatever!
a4xrbj1 wrote: As gvmsia said the signboards are bad and input bad data is adding confusion.
please dont misquote me... i said road names on waze SHOULD follow signboards.
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