Always preferred route - unless

When going south from my town (Stevenage UK) Waze always suggests a particular route which saves quite a few miles but does not always save time and involves many more junctions so I always prefer to take a simpler route so I always ignore wazes routing until it figures the way I am going and then re-routes.

This has a major drawback which hit me this week. If there is a major traffic problem along my preferred route then I won’t know about it until it is too late.

Is there a way to tell Waze to always use my preferred route - unless there is a time difference greater than 10 minutes or similar? I have taken this route hundreds of times and Waze does not seem to be picking up my preference. Bearing in mind that this is not a specific route to a place but a way to go for all South Eastern routes.

Specifically I prefer A1/M25 to A1/a414/M25

Hi,

Waze usually plans three routes when it knows your destination. After you have entered the destination, on the lower left of the app you’ll see a button for “Routes” just above the “Go Now” button. Click on this, and it’ll let you chose from the alternates. If you’re lucky, one of them will be your preferred route.

If not, the only other way around it is to set your destination as normal. Once the route has been calculated and navigation has begun, click on the magnifying glass in the lower left and enter the name of the main road on your detour. You’ll get a “Stop point” popup and you’ll be asked if this is a new drive or a stop. Select “Add a stop” and it’ll take you via the second address.

If this is a regular route, it may be worth adding it as a favourite. The most accurate way for routing purposes is to browse the map on the app and finding the exact point on the alternative route that you wish to drive via. Hold your finger on that part of the road until a popup appears on screen with the road details. Tap on the ‘i’ information icon on the top-right of the popup and a different popup will appear on screen at the bottom with similar road info. On the top left of this new popup, click on “Favourite”. Type in a friendly/meaningful name and then click on “Done”.
From now on, it’ll be easier to select this alternate from you list of destinations/favourites rather than having to point on the map/type in a street name.

Dave

First off welcome to the Waze editing forum.

Just to be different I prefer the A414 :roll: but sometimes find when travelling in the opposite direction from the western side of M25 to the A1 Waze will suggest staying on the M25 right up to the A1, this adds around 5 miles to the journey and is rarely quicker however using the A414 does add 5 roundabouts so it’s personal preference. The only time I’d stick on the M25 / A1 route is when driving a horsebox as it gives them a smoother ride, the wife’s horse tends not to like the way I take roundabouts. :lol:

I’m surprised you want to avoid the A414 when travelling south, I always find the A1/M25 / Bignells Corner roundabout to be dreadfully slow in that direction due to all the traffic lights, even Google Maps suggest avoiding it as it adds 5 minutes to the journey without traffic.

To answer your question I would do as Dave has suggested and look at the alternative routes, I often do this several times throughout my journey and view the routes in Map mode so I can select my preferred route based on time and distance.

I’d avoid Dave’s second suggestion of adding a ‘go via’ as this wont take account of traffic, Waze will take you via that point even if it takes all day!

As to can you change Waze’s default routing, well Waze will prefer to use motorways and major A roads but as the A414 is a major road that is not going to help. Waze will prefer to stay on the same road within reason and avoid junctions so from that point of view it should prefer the motorway but that has to be balanced against saving 5 miles by using a major road rather than a motorway, so that probably makes it even. In this situation I believe the major factors Waze will take into account are the time and distance, distances obviously for the two routes are fixed but the times will vary throughout the day.

On major (busy) routes we believe Waze records each individual segment times in 15 minute intervals for each day of the week so 8:30 am on a Monday morning will be different to 01:30am on a Sunday. Note a segment is between any two road junctions in Waze so A1 J3 at Hatfield to M25 roundabout is two segments (you pass an on slip at J2) but the Bignells corner roundabout and slip roads add a further 11 segments. In theory you could influence the segment times by driving your preferred route very fast and the alternative route very slow but due to the ammount of traffic you would have to do it many times in each 15 minute time segment :roll: and to make it even harder to frig Waze is not only looking at historical times but also live traffic.

That takes us back to asking Waze to calculate 3 alternative routes BUT to get Waze to look at the difference between using the A414 or the A1/M25 you would need to select a destination not too far past the point where those two routes join. If you were travelling to the tip of Cornwall from Stevenage the three routes Waze would probably suggest are M4, M3/A303 or A30 all of which are from the western side of the M25, I doubt it would offer three different routes to the get to the M25. Whereas if you enter Heathrow as a destination it is more likely to show the two alternative routes that you are interested in using.

Interestingly I have just done that and Waze still prefers the A414 and doesn’t offer the A1/M25 option, there must be problems on the M25 between J23 and J22. Currently the two alternatives are either to work your way over to Luton via Hitchin then join the M1 south to the M25 adding 11 minutes / 7 miles to the A414 route OR use the A1 south past the M25 to Mill Hill then join the M1 heading north from Edgware which adds 12 minutes / 8 miles to your route.

Good point! :oops:

From personal experience of a similar problem, my suggestion was based on more of a local scale of 3-4 miles across town. Around here, Waze used to always (but now only sometimes) tried to route me along the clogged up main roads rather than the relatively quiet back roads. It took it about a year (presumably due to lack of historical data?) before it finally started automatically routing the way I wanted it to most of the time.

Dave

I agree. I use Waze to and from work everyday to check traffic.
I have two basic routes to get from work to home.
I’d like the option to set those two route up, and then get Waze (provided I’m at work or very close by) to give me the time in traffic for each of those routes and the best alternative route. I could then pick the best route for me - my favourite route might only be 1 minute slower in which case I’ll take it rather.