Best phone for Waze map updating? (aka most powerful GPS)

I am ready for a phone upgrade and I would like to pick the absolute best phone for Waze map updating.

Nearly the entire city I live in is a mess and is rarely correct… I do what I can from my computer as far as correcting, but I would like to help out from my mobile phone so I can get it as accurate as possible.

I have an iPhone 4, AT&T. Would a 4S be better? How about a Galaxy S II? Or would it be a good idea to go to Verizon and get one of their powerful phones (RAZR, Galaxy Nexus)?

Or will all mobile GPS chips have the same “pave” results?

Thanks!

At the moment, the best is Galaxy Note : it have two GPS systems : NAVSTAR (US system) and GLONASS (Russian system), both running at the same time for 5 meters accuracy

I don’t think you can edit from an iPhone. Papyrus (I believe) requires Flash, which can’t be run on iOS. Sorry.

He want to construct the whole city with the “construct mode ON”…

Yeah this is mainly for the “Pave” mode so I can be as accurate as possible before I get back to my PC. Hope this makes since.

I think your best bet might be an external GPS like:
http://www.sportys.com/PilotShop/product/16597

There are several other options available for usb or bluetooth depending on the phone you have/like. There are also cradles for iPhones that have a serious GPS in it. Magellan makes one that will fit many different sizes of iPods and iPhones.

You still need to edit the map with the Waze Map editor - even after paving via the client application.

So you will need a computer that will run the Chrome browser or Chrome extension for Internet Explorer for the best editing experience.

I really like the idea of an external GPS… I never even thought something like that was possible with the iPhone! Thanks for the info!

I understand. I currently use a Windows 7 machine with Google Chrome to edit the details of my “paves”. This is just so my paves will be as close as possible to real life.

Any modern smartphone that runs Waze (Android or iOS) will be sufficient for paving roads in Waze. Again, the roads need to be edited in the Waze map editor after paving so you can adjust the road geometry in the editor.

There are many good phones for GPS. My Droid 3 is way better than I thought it would be. I don’t see any lag between it and my Garmin nuvi.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the tips! I was mainly worried about the iPhone GPS not being as accurate as, say, a standalone GPS. I didn’t want to pave parellel to the actual road (like on a sidewalk), thus someone with a more accurate GPS chip will be “off-road”.

There was a phone I used to own, that I didn’t like because the GPS was not always tracking properly, it did the job, but when you interfered at all with the signals, say change visibility at all to the sky, it wouldn’t receive, it was a Galaxy S Vibrant, and from what we found out through other forums, it wasn’t just the Vibrant, but about every Galaxy S variant. They came out with an update eventually that helped, but it pails in comparison to the phone i use now as far as sensitivity and acquisition, and I’ll have to also say with accuracy. I run the Nexus S 4G and I was skeptical at first that it would be any different than my experience with the Vibrant, but it was night and day. This GPS in this phone is so much better. I get in places like inside stores and malls that never occurred with the Vibrant, I get in my house, even in the lower level that never happened with the Vibrant. I mean, I could get it upstairs by a south facing wall, but these are just examples.

I would test them out in displays at stores if you are really ambitious about the quality. If it can get a 10m lock or better inside the store, such as my phone is capable, then it will be far more accurate when in the clear and open view to the sky outside, in your car dock. Just my opinion, but I also deal a lot with GPS on a daily basis in my line of work with aviation and I have a different standard for these type of things. One thing I did recently with my phone is I took it out to a park with hiking trails and opened up Google Maps to get satellite imagery of where we were while on the trails, it was pretty impressive in my opinion to be able to do something like that. Granted, it didn’t have a location near me to lock my location to say like navigating, but it was a fun experiment nonetheless.

There is one other thing too, and not sure about Apple products doing this or not, as there is always this Android can do this, Apple can do this talk… but here is one thing I like to do with my phone, that I am not sure you could do with an iPhone, so correct me if I am wrong.

I like to run Waze when I am going somewhere almost every time, but if there is a descrepancy with a location in Waze or the inability to route over 1k miles currently, I’ll run Google Navigation at the same time and they both run simultaneously and I can still listen to Slacker cached content for those moments of spotty cellular coverage on the roads. That is one benefit that I have always heard of for Android in the plus column, but that may be old ways of thinking as I don’t know the current capabilities of Apple phones and I am not here to debate that, but to share my experience. Hope you find what fits you best. And even though you might get accurate paves in, you’ll still need to edit them before they go live, and in most cases, you’ll realize they need to be edited geometry wise anyways.

For the record the GPS chip in the iPhone 4 and newer are if good quality and accuracy for a SmartPhone.

Paving? are you using a consumer GPS to make a physical road? Or is this some feature in Waze that you help verify/update maps? either way, the best thing is to find industrial GPS units like trimble, that are accurate to centimeters instead of meters. Of course, maybe that’s not needed for routing maps for roads that are ~20ft or more wide.

Ken

That kind of accuracy is not necessary for this function. Waze is a SmartPhone application. The paving function is part of the application. It is designed to work on a SmartPhone.

I know for a fact that the iPhone 3GS GPS should not be wholly relied upon. I created a road in my town with my iPhone 4 and the trace lays over the aerial perfectly. My friend was the second user to go the same way and his trace was in a field about 8 metres to the left.

I was also asked to edit a road he paved and it was incorrect again in an area of good view of the sky and 3G signal.

Don’t let this put you off using a 3GS version but be aware that it is not quite as good as the devices that have followed. After a few weeks of users going along a road you can see the average shape of it in the arrows. Freeways have densely packed arrows after just a few days and it’s obvious where to place the road segments.
Seems to be that the newer the phone, the better the accuracy of the GPS chip.

It’s a bit better/worse (delete as required) again today

You may already know this, but if you switch on the GPS layer in the editor, you can see all of recent drives by yourself and other drivers. Using this information can help you position the new roads while ignoring the obvious GPS errors.

You can also ask for updated aerials in your area, which will help with the editing.

If you really want to go for maximum accuracy, an external GPS receiver is a must. Even a simple one like TomToms kit for the iPhone is a dramatic improvement.

GPS chips in phones are halfway decent, iPhone 4 & 4S are probably as good as it gets. 3GS is okay, not really great.
As far as Android phones go, my experience is pretty bad. Stay away from the Galaxy S, GPS is really bad there.

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