County/State Road Standards

I have some questions and comments:
(1)How do you determine whether a road is a County Highway or a County Road? (It seems like naming varies based on county?)
(2)PhantomBlack and I have been naming roads CR-xxx - not sure if this is applicable to highways. (contingent on the naming issue)
(3)There are a couple places where I have just called the road County XX (For Example: the green and white street name signs say “County CB” here)
(4) “you need to make sure the entire length of the highway is named the same” definitely agree here.

Also, before just saying they should be minor highway, the functional maps should be consulted (they’re linked to on the Wisconsin wiki) and if the county maintained road (whatever it’s called) is a “collector road” it should be set to primary street, not minor highway.

That’s my input for now.

EDIT: I have also seen a comment from another editor suggesting that Waze staff (back in the day) went through the database and turned any road with “Hwy” in the name into “minor highway”. If this is true (and I know I’ve seen a lot to support this in smaller communities) there are a lot of “Co Hwy’s” that need to be downgraded to “primary street”

It absolutely did. Look southwest of Lansing, MI in the livemap, and you’ll see that township border roads (presumably they’re named blah blah highway) are all in gold for highways. This has since been fixed (the livemap layer is out of date), but you can see evidence that it was once there.

I’d like to revive this post that has been dormant for over a year to consider all these topics. Going through and verifying or changing road labels is a good way to tour the state and take care of errors and other problems.

It seems that on another post in the Wisconsin forum, the conclusion that was reached is that all county roads and highways should just be named CR-XXX. I noticed a lot of variation when touring parts of the state. I guess this is OK.

How should “State Highway XXX” or similar roads be named? Many states seem to have adopted all state highways and routes being named a shorter version of “SR-XXX” for State Route. This is consistent and uses little client screen space. A few states have not followed suit, such as Texas, because they have special road naming conventions where this would not make sense. This has a number of benefits including standardization.

There are a couple resources to consider. In the Wiki there is this page: https://www.waze.com/wiki/Road_naming_by_state

When you look at that page, I believe a lot of the states that are still on “County Hwy XXX” and similar just have not addressed the issue.

In the Southwest there was a conversation here: https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=566&t=49337

I would propose for Wisconsin, to simplify things that we move to CR-XXX for country roads and highways (prior conclusion on the other topic in Wisconsin, and move to SR-xxx for State Highway XXX. I don’t see any problem with these making the state consistent and bridging a lot of the county differences in how they label county roads.

Comments?

With Wisconsin calling their state roads State Hwy XXX, as the locals know it as, I think they are going to want to stay on that format. Or at least till Waze can make SH-XXX say State Hwy XXX.

I have been changing Co Hwy XXX to CR-XXX as I find them. It sounds better than “Coh Highway XXX”. And the CR-‘N’ works by TTS not saying County Route North, and just saying County Route en. CR-NN works correct without the quote by saying County Route en-en.

Thanks Bigbear…

In my experience across the country, a lot of places call their roads “State Highway XXX,” but that is somewhat irrelevant to the Waze app in my opinion and experience. “State Route” is really the same thing. That’s true in many places in the country and most of them are going to SR-XXX standard on the map. Many of the places in the list staying with State Hwy just have not had any standardization effort.

Benefits of this is also that the appearance on the client doesn’t clutter the screen.

Sounds like you agree with CR-XXX though.

Have they managed to resolve this now? I know for a while the voice directions would state CR-N as “County Route North”, CR-NN as “County Route North North”, and things like that. Unfortunately I haven’t been on a drive recently that would take me on one of those roads to confirm. I had been making road edits using the quotes to try to overcome that, but if they have fixed that issue I would love to go around and clean up some of those roads.

The ones I have encountered that pronounce right, have had quotes. Now the CR-NN pronounces correctly without quotes.

I have to find a CR-ES to try. Thought there was one in mukwonago.

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There is: marked on the map starting in Mukwonago and heading southwest (generally paralleling I-43 at least to East Troy). Right now it’s all marked up with the single quotes because of the reading issue, so it’s CR-‘E’‘S’.

Knew I saw it somewhere. I’ll bet I got off there for fuel once.

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Just for completeness, We need to watch out for 2 letter state abbreviations now. I just tested CR-CT and heard “county road Connecticut”

Also, CR-CR is a problem in Manitowoc, at least. There was someone dropping UR’s about CR-C being a couple miles south from there (which it is). I’m assuming it was because it was named CR-C R and there was a display problem. (I explained that CR-CR would say county road county road - with no response). I tested CR-C.R which worked for TTS, and doesn’t look bad either. Thoughts?

(I did try CR-‘CR’… didn’t work. I just mention it because someone made CR-‘EE’ up by me - I’ll clean it up, no worries on that one.)

There is a CR-NN near the US-12 and I-43 interchange that is working fine as is with no single quotes. CR-EE should work too with no quotes.

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Yes, I verified this, and that’s why I said I would clean it up :wink:
Edit: I apparently already finished getting the ones that I assume were out of daven’s range, as he had already fixed the others.

Please continue this conversation in the Name Normalization for Wisconsin forum thread.

As such, this forum thread is now locked.

Thanks!