They are about to release a new editor with integrated Google maps adding automatically house numbers, etc. I suppose they want the feature to be somehow exclusive?
Wasn’t there this thread about those geocoding data sources? Maybe HQ struck a deal to use those instead, who knows. At least in Germany there are a few regions where neither OSM nor Google had correct data compared to the official maps released by the state.
The livemap is not an external source and probably was not included in the intent of Waze’s request. Mabye Oyyo can bring us back that button. Even if the link at the top is just the same, it is still hidden from all of us who edit in fullscreen.
There is a wiki page which goes into great detail about these legal reasons Using external sources. I’ll quote the beginning of it here, please go there to the full article. The emphasis is mine.
As the last sentence quoted says, if Waze is challenged legally about the map in a certain area, as having been (partially) copied from a copyrighted source, it will not be able to easily pick out which edits were illegal. They will have to show the courts they are taking decisive action as soon as they learn of the infraction. To do so they will, as they have already done in the past, revert the map of that entire area (possibly even the entire country) back to the basemap import. All the work of the editors in that area will be lost permanently. This is why it is imperative not to copy anything into Waze from external sources. Having the links to those sources readily available, makes it all that much easier for an unsuspecting editor who hasn’t read this wiki page to mistakenly copy over protected data into Waze.
Wasn’t that caused by Someone™ ripping off entire primitives and not just street names from OSM? Anyway, I hope that HQ will find some sort of legal replacement for this.
How about the google map maker link so that we can fix issues on there map like we do. This was helping them out a lot for fixes to the map and a lot of us have worked hard to correct some of there issues and add to there map. Will this come back.
+1000 to this. Since Waze currently uses Google Maps as its primary source for address/POI location information, if we don’t have an easy way to get to where we’re working in Waze within GMM, the map markers simply won’t get moved, and Waze will continue to route people to the wrong location - and when that happens enough, Waze will lose users since face it, who needs a navigation app that sends you to the wrong spot?
And on a side note - this was removed at the request of WAZE STAFF? Seriously??? People who are NOT busting their butts for free to help them have a better map application? So they don’t use it and now don’t want us using a useful tool that makes our lives easier for confirming information on the map?
I think that it really SUCKS that the maintainer/author of this addon just went ahead and said “ok” and took out an increadably useful part of the toolbox just because a bunch of people who don’t actively edit their map and deal with driver reports wanted it removed for whatever reason. Screw that. :evil:
PLEASE put the ability to link to those other map sources back in. I thought the addons were tools FOR the volunteer map editors written by those same people. If that’s the case, then they need to have the features that we need/want, and as long is it’s not something which is actually having a negative impact on the Waze map or WME itself, then the priority should be on helping out the volunteer, for-free, editors - not catering to some half-baked request from the people who are making money off of this.
(Note, I have no problem with them making money - but I patently dislike it when they who are making money make a request/decision that makes things more difficult for people who are working for fee on it for no good reason.)
Edit: I just read PesachZ’s comments regarding “copying” concerns. IMO, FWIW, when there’s a button on the screen that says “copy this map area data from {source},” then a case could be made for them facilitating copying of copyrighted data. When the link simply points you to the same area (something you can already do, but not nearly so conveniently) in another map, that’s not copying or facilitating it. You can’t even “copy-and-paste” from one map tab to another, so there’s no copying going on. Being able to look and confirm a street name - something which is PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, is not copyright infringement. Waze is being way too paranoid here, as far as I’m concerned. Cautious is good, certainly. Paranoid, not so much.
Edit #2: Man, I’m just full of edits today…
It occurs to me that I kinda forgot an old adage that I usually like to follow: Don’t post on a subject you’re upset about while you’re still at the “WTF??” phase of being upset over it; it leads you to sometimes say things that you later realize you didn’t quite mean (at least in the way you posted at the time).
I realize that Oyyodams isn’t in the best position regarding this, and he’s really not to blame. So I’d like to apologize to him for the parts I directed at him. I know it’s not his call and he probably feels obligated to follow those types of requests from the owner of this product.
That said, I really do hope that at some point the GM and GMM links can be added back at some point; given Waze’s relationship with Google, I honestly just don’t see a reason for those links to not be restored at some point.