Help with UR

Hi everyone,

I’ve been looking at the following UR and can’t come up with a good solution that doesn’t create other problems. Does anyone have any ideas?

https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat=51.1735&lon=-0.31719&layers=BFTFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTFT

The road layout seems completely correct as far as I can tell but if you look at the UR this gives rise to confusing client instructions. It seems that if you are travelling north on the A24 and want to continue on north the client will give you a turn left instruction as you approach the intersection. This would be confusing as the driver would assume it meant a left turn onto the southbound A29.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to change the junction geometry to give better instructions? I’ve already thought of replacing the bottom half of the junction with a roundabout and using turn restrictions to prevent a routing round the dummy top of the roundabout which would give rise to less confusing roundabout instructions in the northbound approach but would unfortunately mean odd instructions elsewhere on the junction.

Any help would be appreciated.

maybe it is good to try a roundabout like a pear shape. yes, it is a bit odd at the northbound but i think it is not a big deal.

btw, I can see A24 is 2 separated roads. Should they be named as A24 (N) and A24 (S)? It will help the traffic report.

I would change it to a roundabout as the road signs show it as roundabout and it is called ‘Beare Green Roundabout’ also.

I took one look at that and left it to you! I’d like to know how to deal with these types of junction too. In the past, I’ve either decided to make it a complete roundabout or completely not, neither of which is good.

Yes, I can’t believe the idiot that last edited some of those sections to the south :wink:

I can’t view WME from work, can someone take a screenshot and post it?

I’m just a bit reluctant to make it one big elongated, pear-shaped roundabout as that would trigger roundabout instructions if you were travelling from the north a good distance away from the junction (although I suppose there is nowhere else obvious to go) and another if travelling northbound as you reached the little cut through.

I don’t think there is a really satisfactory solution to this so I’m wondering whether to leave it alone.

They blocked Waze for your pc? :wink:

Doesn’t seem that way as I don’t get a “Blocked” warning, it just fails to load, I can get to the forum ok but not the dashboard, livemap or editor.

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ok I’ve found it on GMaps and interestingly none of the feed-in roads indicate you are approaching a roundabout!

That said, I think your best bet is to make it a large roundabout, indeed this is how Google handles it too. Yes it might seem odd approaching from the North but the instructions will still be valid! It would be more confusing entering from the Southern entrances without roundabout-like instructions!

You’re assuming that WME is working ok …

A dangerous assumption I realise!

lol, erm, thanks, but, erm, dropbox is blocked too! :wink:

How do you do any work then?

The consensus seemed to be “roundabout” so I’ve made the change. Can someone give it a look over to see if I’ve done something stupid? Can someone who’s level 4 also unlock the A24 (N) where it joins so I can rename it - or just make the change for me?

https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&lat=51.17394&lon=-0.31691&layers=BFTFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTFT

I decided to leave the v’s on the roundabout at the southern end as the distance between the junctions seems to warrant it.

Unlocked, check the roundabout direction at the bottom - looks like a red to me

Yes, you’re right, although I was certain I’d checked them all with a “shift-a”. The odd thing was that it wouldn’t change it in the new editor - I had to use Cartouche to enable all the turns.

Maybe I flicked it when I changed the northbound entry - I’ve got two toddlers fighting on top of me, so editing is difficult/random.

This roundabout is just a bit further south. Anyone would like to fix it :wink:
https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&lat=51.14504&lon=-0.32683&layers=BFTFTTTTTTFTTTTFTTTTFT