I'm no train

Yesterday evening Waze was thinking I was a train again…

I managed to drive on the traintracks next to the E19, inbetween the 2 lanes.
(It’s a bit behind Vilvoorde, direction Antwerp).

I don’t have access rights to convert the ‘walking’ trail between the 2 tracks on the E19 back to a railroad.

Can someone with access rights please update this?

Thank you.

We use walking trail for railroads in Belgium. I know the naming is confusing, but it’s like that. I think it’t the gps signal of your phone that isn’t accurate.

And what is the value of indicating railways as walking trails?
People really can’t walk between the 2 lanes on a highway… :wink:

It’s not the first time my Waze thinks I’m a train and I’m probably really not the only one.
If the walking trail serves no purpose, but confusing your new users, why not remove it?

Or do they serve a purpose? :slight_smile:

I think its a gps issue , maybe try this ap .

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cochibo.gpsstatus&hl=nl

@K_Rens The railroad roadtype in Waze has two disadvantages. First, it doesn’t show up in the client. Second, it doesn’t snap your client to it as well as the type we currently use.

Why do you call those disadvantages? I think they are advantages.
I do not want to snap to railroads and I do not need to know in the client that there are railroads?

Waze is meant for cars, not for trains? Or is there a new train update? :slight_smile:

I drove maybe 100 times on the E19 without any problem . So try an application to get a better fix

I’m not saying it happens every time, only about once every 1 or 2 months. :wink:

I’ve driven over +/- 600 times on the E19.
Would be cool if waze could give me an exact count how much I’ve used that road. :wink:

I was just surprised to see that a walking trail was used in the middle of an highway ^^

There is some higher understanding of how Waze works needed to explain this. We do want people to snap to railroads. People turn Waze on when they are in the train. If they wouldn’t snap to the railroad they’re on, they would be snapped to a nearby road. On that road, historical average speed data would be ruined by it. Traffic jams that are actually there in real life would be swept away by the Wazer in the train.

And yes, we want to see them, because they help determining where you are, they give visual confirmation that what you see on your phone corresponds with reality. It tells you to make a turn just before or just after the railroad crossing. For the same reason we add landmarks like forests, parks, industrial areas.

Your problem is with the GPS fix of your device. We’re not gonna change the map for that.

Walking trail is used for public transport like De lijn. I also thought railroad was used for train.

Walking trail is generally used for public transport, like the train… :slight_smile:
There is a convention about how to name the segments, to make clear what kind of ‘public transport’ it’s used for… :slight_smile:

Never had any problems on the E19.

I also never had any problems at the E19 :wink:

But maybe we can have a look how to fix this specific issue.
Normally when driving with a route (did you have one?) you should never be snapped to another nearby road.
You can try to turn on debug mode in the client. (https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Turn_on_debug_mode)
If it happens again, you can send in logs and then we can investigate the issue.

@Acidoxy: Ok, glad I wasn’t the only one confused by the walking trails.
I guess this is sort of correct, trains in Belgium are often so slow that you consider them as a pedestrian walking on a trail. :slight_smile:

@Deeggo: thank you for the explanation. I agree we cannot have train users messing up the road data.

@All: it only happens if I drive on the left lane, the one closest to the walking trail.
And mainly around Vilvoorde.

It often starts if I go under a bridge in a traffic jam, when I get out under the bridge, I’m on the train track. :slight_smile:
The Gps is then searching for the new position and in those cases it happens it jumps to the train track.
It only jumps back to the E19 if I go back to the right lane :wink:
In average the gps in my phone is about 5m precise. I use it for geocaching as well and then it’s quite correct.

Ps: I indeed had a route set-up I was following, the same one I drive every day.

When under bridges for a long time, or in a tunnel it’s indeed possible the gps fix will get lost and end up on the rail road.