Philippine Wazers

Sirs,

napansin ko nga na guide lang talaga ang BING AERIAL maps at hindi siya calibrated accurately to the real routes natin based on the GPS points recorded by WAZE.

painstakingly, i try realligning our roads to the average GPS points and not to the BING AERIAL images of roads. (madugo :lol: )

Mga Sir, ni-lock ko na yung C5 at Ayala roads, sa ngayon tama na yung nasa map pero di pa nagre-reflect sa client maps natin. lagi napapalitan yung direction nung roads at turn restrictions kaya mali lagi yung routing. pag may kailangan kayo i-edit sabihan nyo lang ako para un-lock ko.

hindi na calibrated tapos outdated pa yung aerials. wala yata tayo choice kasi yun lang ang available na base image. ang bagal pa mag-load ng gps points tsaka sa ibang area walang gps points kaya images lang talaga ang basis.

yung yung kulang e… dapat pwede magset ng speed limit…
ay lagay pala tyo house numbers laki tulong nun e…

mga sir patulong naman. i cant edit this junction at roxas blvd cor arnaiz. yung going north na node naka-red yung arrow.
https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&lat=14.54585&lon=120.99175&layers=BFTFTTTTTTFTTTTFTTTTFT&nodes=154312571
thanks!

Hello fellow wazers, I have a few suggestions or guide as to how we should edit our roads. I’ve noticed that a lot of problems and update requests are due to incomplete or incorrect information on our map. A lot of these issues could be avoided if we follow the “Best Map Editing Practice” guide in the wiki (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best_map_editing_practice). Please comment or add other issues you have encountered.

  1. Create road (whether tracing aerial images or gps points)
  2. Set road type (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best_map_editing_practice#Highways_and_Ramps)
  3. Set directionality (two way, one way, dead end) (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best_map_editing_practice#Directionality_.26_Locking)
  4. Set the level (ground level = 0, Underpass = -1, Flyover = 1, 2, 3, etc.) (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best_map_editing_practice#Overpasses_.26_Underpasses)
  5. Connect or create junctions (attach to existing roads) (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best_map_editing_practice#Connectivity)
  6. Set turn restrictions (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Cartouche_-_Update_map#Highlight_Connectivity:)
  7. Name the road, if you don’t know the name, set the city, if you don’t know the city leave it alone. Somebody else could edit it.
  8. When naming streets, omit “City” and “Street”. Eg. “Pasig City” to “Pasig” only and “Dela Rosa Street” to “Dela Rosa” only. Except when they are not “Streets” like “Kamias Road”, “Aurora Boulevard”, “Ayala Avenue”, etc.
  9. Do not split roads unless they are Expressways, Major, and Minor Highways. Even if they are Major or Minor highways, do not split them if they do not have wide median barriers. Split roads complicate routes and are harder to maintain. There is a guideline in wiki about this here http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best_map_editing_practice#In_Practice

^great guide kazmuth! i hope all those who edit the map would read this first. i sure wish i did before i made some edits.
anyway, there is an update on the map tiles today. i hope routing would be more reliable now.
sirs, in this part of the map: http://bit.ly/xanmG4 on the phone it still shows it as “Kawit” when in fact it is “Bacoor”. i already changed all the properties of the streets to bacoor but on the phone it still says kawit. ano po ba ang dapat gawin?

most likely that some, if not most of the streets, still have “Kawit” as the city instead of “Bacoor”. That’s how it is in my area in Pasig, some of the streets have “San Juan” and “Marikina” instead of “Pasig”. Ang ginagawa ko, iniisa-isa ko yung streets tapos pinapalitan yung City.

how about naming like, South Luzon Expressway?
Ano ba mas maganda na ipangalan? Maganda sana kung complete… South Luzon Expressway… pero the problem is masyado sya mahaba… hindi na sya nagfit sa mobile phone…
Is it ok to name it ‘SLEX’? or ‘S Luzon Expwy’? If ever maimplement na yung text2speech sa pinas (currently US/Canada only), ‘SLEX’ equals ‘es el e ex’ while ‘S Luzon Expwy’ equals ‘South Luzon Expressway’
I would also suggest removing the parentheses/() when denoting NB etc… Should be simpler like ‘S Luzon Expwy N’.
I would also suggest removing first names in street or initials nalng… like ‘E. Rodriguez, Jr.’ para mas maikli? and ngayon paano naman yung EDSA hehehe? ‘E. De los Santos Ave’?

All the roads I create and rename have their complete names. If TTS would be implemented in the world server, I think it would not be that useful. Not all streets have english names and it would not pronounce the street names properly. Here in the Philippines, most of our roads are from spanish sounding names and tagalog words so TTS say them differently from how we know them. As for the long names, I don’t know if it’s just me but I would prefer complete names instead of initials or abbreviation. This is to avoid confusion especially for those who are unfamiliar with an area. There are not a lot of roads with long names anyway and for me it would be tolerable if it would prevent confusion on directions. These are just my 2 cents :slight_smile:

i edited all the properties and made it bacoor even before this last update. pero kawit pa din. when i checked sa WME and clicked the city overlay, ayun nga lumalabas na part ng kawit yung area namin. i dont know how to adjust the city limits though.

Not sure how the city layer is edited, maybe on the old cartouche editor.

I just want to share this with all the waze editors here in the Philippines :slight_smile: Let’s keep it up guys!

magandang araw mga kapatid sa manibela :smiley:

it seems WAZE is able to improve the new “map editor” bit by bit… migrating from the old cartouche editor. when i first saw the new map editor (before the new new version available today) kulang ang mga controls etc. ngayon the new new version is quite user friendly. still waiting for the new new newer version :smiley:

aside from sirs bangus’ & kazmuth’s problem with city layers, i read an article from “Best Map Editing Practice”…

A) with regards to a road that traverses through several cities/towns/municipalities (e.g. MacArthur or Maharlika… maswerte kung may wazer sa area involved but in instances na walang wazer to edit the area), binibiyak ang kalsada into segments to accommodate the labeling of the area. usually sa boundary ng 2 bayan involved.

B) with regards to labeling of roads, i started out before to label (NB) & (SB). but after reading the wiki guides, i rectified the areas i labeled (NB) to N & (SB) to S. hehehe and awaiting for the tile updates na lang din.

C) just as erap said, WAZE suggests that simplest would be best (if not better). i wish to agree with kazmuth on complete names but as waze has experienced, it clutters up our navigation apps. especially the part where the traffic reports pop up… ang hahaba ng mga pangalan that the text wraps 2 to 3 lines at times. and i do believe that our local WAZERS are able to “decrypt” the short or abbreviated names our app shows… este mga pinapangalan natin sa mga lansangan. :lol:

sang-ayon po ako dito :sunglasses:

Sirs, may i also suggest that we, WAZERS in the Philippines aside from following the international standards, also adopt (& adapt) our own standards. There are or there will be times that we will encounter a unique or special case that we shall have to decide upon. This is just in anticipation of these cases should “it” arise.

Abroad, in the western world when they say freeway or expressway, you can land an airplane. dito sa atin & most asian countries, naka Down size tayo. we all understand the importance of real estate. masikip na, sisiksikan pa. :smiley:

for instance, the road arteries that emanate from Quiapo area are Rizal Ave, Quezon Blvd then Commonwealth, Magsaysay Blvd then Aurora Blvd, Ortigas Ave, Shaw Blvd etc all fan out to the North & East of the metropolis. though they average of 2 lanes (widening to 3 lanes at certain points or narrowing to 1 lane) these arteries carry heavy public utility volume though several cities/municipalities.

would everyone agree that these class/types of road be labeled as MINOR HWY and not as Primary Sts?

in instances where the road traverses through different provinces, do we agree that these be labeled as MAJOR HWY?

and that the only roads to be labeled as FWY (freeways) are the Toll Roads? Skyway, SLEX, NLEX, SCTEX, STAR, Coastal Rd. (as far as Luzon is concerned. no pun intended to our visayan and mindanao colleagues)

shall we all agree to label Fly-Overs (OPAS) Tunnels (TUNL) & Underpass (UPAS) as RAMPS for our own local distinction?

if you all will notice that looking at our waze apps (daytime) ramps (& Minor HWYs) are easily distinguished zoomed out at a certain level and zooming out further only the MAJOR HWY & FWY are visible.

ano sa palagay ninyo mga kasama. :?:

i do believe dhageuk’s earlier link, will be very useful in labeling abbreviations.

perhaps we can adapt the 3 to 4 letter abbrevs. so that should T2T be implemented, all would be prepared. (hopefully they employ vangie instead of siri :lol: )

ALY ALLEY
AVE AVENUE
BLVD BOULEVARD
bldg BUILDING
BYP BYPASS
CSWY CAUSEWAY
CTR CENTER
Cty City
XING CROSSING
DR DRIVE
E East
EXP EXPRESSWAY
EXT EXTENSION
FWY FREEWAY
GTWY GATEWAY
HTS HEIGHTS
HWY HIGHWAY
JCT JUNCTION
MT MOUNT
Natl National
N North
OPAS OVERPASS
PKY PARKWAY
PLZ PLAZA
RD ROAD
RTE ROUTE
St. Saint
Sr Senior
SKWY SKYWAY
S South
STN STATION
ST STREET
STS STREETS
Sudiv (subd) Subdivision
TUNL TUNNEL
UPAS UNDERPASS
VLY VALLEY
VDCT VIADUCT
VILL VILLAGE
WY WAY
W West

Truly, nakakataba ng puso… kampai mga kapatid! :idea:

sirs, may i also suggest that the stretch of C-5 Rd (parts of T.Sora, Katipunan, E.Rod Jr) be made a Minor HWY? it being an artery traversing from north to south on the eastern part of metro manila.

for your perusal :wink:

wouldnt “speed” be based on the type of the road? at least ganun sa garmin eh, routing is based on the speed of the road.
dito kasi sa atin ang classifications ng mga highways are something like “national”, “provincial” or “municipal” depende sa span ng kalsada. pero it doesnt necessarily follow na mas mabilis dun dumaan.
so there is a dilemma there.

Waze selects routes based on the road type, selecting freeways over major highways, major highways over minor highways, and so on, unless you have ‘avoid highways’ enabled. This was the reason why waze always suggests the heavy traffic ridden ‘Kalayaan Avenue’ in Makati over ‘32nd St.’ because ‘Kalayaan Avenue’ was tagged as a minor highway and ‘32nd St.’ was only a street. I’ve made both of them as primary streets to have them have the same speed penalty and routing would then be based on traffic reports on both roads.

Another basis for waze routing is the number of junctions on the street. Each junction adds a 5 second penalty on the route computation so waze will prefer a street with lesser junctions.

The problem with waze road types is the limited types, there should be secondary and tertiary roads. I agree that the freeways be limited to the ‘expressways’ but the major highways I think should be limited to the likes of ‘MacArthur’, ‘Maharlika’, ‘National’, ‘Cagayan Valley Road’, etc. which traverses across multiple provinces. Minor highways then become roads which are the main provincial roads, primary roads would be the main city or municipal roads.

Maybe we can create a list here so we can be in agreement on the road types for our streets like

Freeways:
NLEX
SCTEX
SLEX
STAR

Major:
MacArthur
Maharlika
National

Minor:

Primary:

And then maybe have a separate list for different provinces.

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apparently there was a delay in processing the city layer as discussed in this thread https://world.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17087&hilit=city

so the basis for the city boundary is indeed the city tags on the streets, the update on the city layer just didn’t happen at the same time as the road map tiles on the last update

nakita ko na ang salarin. the whole stretch of the cavitex was marked as belonging to Kawit. i already made the necessary changes. hopefully mapasama na sa next update