Someone seems to have messed up this intersection on Bollinger Canyon Rd. and then locked it at 3.
Please unlock.
Thanks.
Patick (rank 2)
Ok, it’s now locked at 2. Let me know when you have finished working on the intersection. I see at least seven things wrong there…
Thanks very much.
The intersection was messed up and the turn-out lanes were either odd or not connected. I fixed most of it. I’ll test it out as soon as the map gets pushed.
Funny enough, someone just marked the issue that I had reported for this as closed and fixed. It wasn’t fixed. In fact I didn’t see any evidence of any changes at all. So it’s a mystery why they claim to have fixed it.
You caught almost everything. Good job. The right turn from the end of this segment, from EB Bollinger Canyon to SB Chevron Dr, should be restricted, because it is a duplicate of the right turn provided by the connector segment adjacent to it:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-121.96021&lat=37.76141&zoom=8&layers=389&env=usa&segments=78283716
The second thing, involving the geometry of the two right turn connectors at that intersection, is more a matter of editor/driver preference, and the practice is not uniform in all parts of the country, or agreed upon by all high ranking editors.
The way those at-grade connectors are currently configured, Waze will prompt the driver to “Stay to the right on Xxxx, and then Turn right on Xxxx.” To me, those are single-turn, single-prompt situations. I’d prefer, as a driver, to hear only “Turn right on Xxxx.” To accomplish this, I’d set a small dogleg in the very beginning of each connector, so that the turn angle where it separates from the main road is greater than 45 degrees (50-90 is good), and then make the second angle, where the connector merges with the second road, a much narrower angle, maybe 10-20 degrees. The turn prompt then comes a little bit early, so the driver has plenty of time to get into the turn lane, but already knows what to do at the actual intersection, so there’s no second prompt. I’d be especially inclined to consider this for the one from Bollinger to Chevron. Because Bollinger is set as Major Highway type, the first prompt will currently be Exit, rather than Stay, which sounds a bit odd in a street situation. There would not be an Exit prompt with a turn angle greater than 45 degrees.
Again, the above is a practice used by a lot of editors, but not all, and I’m not saying that the way you have it set up is wrong. You may want to ask kentsmith9, or a local AM (if you have one) how they prefer to set up at-grade connectors.
Last thing, also about that connector going from Bollinger to Chevron. It should probably be made Parking Lot Road type, as that is the lower of the two road types it connects (this is the rule of thumb for road types of connectors).
All done. The fixes are live now. Everything tests out ok.
Great suggestions by the way.
I did all but one.
The connector going from Bollinger to Chevron, since it was a very long turn-out connector, I left that one the way it was. The other connector works well with the early turn guidance as you mentioned. However this one at 500 feet is just too early for a right turn guidance. My preference as a driver is the “stay to the right” and then “turn on xxx” closer to the actual intersection.
Thanks for the help!
Cool. Looks very good. I bumped the locks back up to 3. There’s one change I made. The connector from Sunset to Bollinger Canyon doesn’t need a name. It will inherit that (for the purposes of the turn prompts) from the Bollinger segment to which it attaches. The general rule is that at-grade connectors are never named unless they must contain house numbers.