Although it’s unknown if there is some type of regular data feed to and from this ‘partner’ or whether we are on our own now as far as maintaining this data.
Madness if the latter!
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Would’ve been pretty pointless bothering at all if that was the case. Wouldn’t surprise me though, and I’m sure none of you would be either…
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It should be the higher of the two prices. Posting the lower (cash, usually) price could mislead some people. If you go based on the higher price, then you’re at least no worse off.
I noticed this morning that my local gas station was updated “Today” by a third party and had the correct prices, which were different than 2 days ago when I updated them myself. So it appears the feed could be regular.
I agree … we do have one station in my area that has a higher credit-card price for diesel only, and it’s a truck stop right by the interstate. My reasonable assumption in today’s society is that trucking companies generally give their long-haul drivers a card instead of a few thousand in cash for gas at the start of their trips (I could be wrong about this, but it seems logical to me, at least). At any rate, I would rather have someone overjoyed at getting to pay $.06/gallon less than what Waze told him than to have someone furious at having to pay $.06/gallon more than what Waze said the price would be. ![]()
I would not go to that station if it listed the higher credit price - meaning cash at BP is 3.50 and credit at BP is 3.60. Cash at Shell down the street is 3.55 and credit is 3.65. If someone put in the credit price for the BP and the cash price (which is the universal entry price for these apps right now) for Shell, I would go to Shell, not BP. Then I would pay .05 more than I should have and be upset because Waze directed me to the wrong station.
Also, if you use that station’s credit card (i.e., BP card at BP station), it is considered cash for the price difference.
Well, again, that’s kind of the point. If its the universal entry price, that’s great. But its pretty clear now that it is not the universal entry price in waze yet.
It’s the guidance given to the beta testers to use cash prices, so that’s the only thing we have for now. Ignore it if you wish.
It may be the guidance but I’m with Spil, it’s far better to be pleased that the actual price is cheaper because I happen to be carrying $80 of cash on me (a very rare event), than it is to get to the “Cheapest” station only to realize that because I use plastic it’s actually going to cost me more, and possibly more than the station across the street that doesn’t differentiate or at least has a smaller difference between cash and credit.
The cash price may be the cheapest, but unless Waze provides an option to provide two price points for each fuel grade, putting credit is far better as it will be much less aggravating to those trying to save a little money.
Put Credit price, and Waze should consider a check box to indicate an additional cash discount (easier than two price boxes IMO).
Every single gas price application uses the cash price. It’s the standard unless credit prices are specified.
Again, please update prices using the cash price. All Wazers need to be using the same data entry process or this new gas price comparison functionality is totally useless since you cannot compare between stations effectively. It’s bad enough that prices are already showing for grades of fuel that are not available (eg. Diesel).
If you pay with credit card you know you will be paying more in many cases. You surely already know which brands around you charge extra for credit.
Every single gas price application uses the cash price. It’s the standard unless credit prices are specified.
But, I didn’t know this as I never used another gas price application. In the absence of this information or guidance from waze, putting the highest price was my natural inclination. Based on this thread, I will enter the cash price. But, most aren’t going to see this thread. I simply don’t think it going to work well to rely on people knowing the “standard.”
Again, please update prices using the cash price. All Wazers need to be using the same data entry process or this new gas price comparison functionality is totally useless since you cannot compare between stations effectively. It’s bad enough that prices are already showing for grades of fuel that are not available (eg. Diesel).
I totally agree. Most prices currently come from the third party source. It seem to me to be highly beneficial for waze to simply state that the prices that are shown from the external source are cash prices and that they should be updated by wazers with the cash price.
If you pay with credit card you know you will be paying more in many cases. You surely already know which brands around you charge extra for credit.
To be honest, I can’t remember the last time I was at a station that charged extra for credit. No that’s not right, the last time was the second time I used waze to find a gas station. But before that I can’t remember. So I haven’t really given cash prices any thought until waze added the feature.
Based on this thread, I will enter the cash price. But, most aren’t going to see this thread. I simply don’t think it going to work well to rely on people knowing the “standard.”
…It seem to me to be highly beneficial for waze to simply state that the prices that are shown from the external source are cash prices and that they should be updated by wazers with the cash price…
Yes, it’s a problem. I provided feedback to Waze during the Beta to specify that cash prices should be entered (a note on the data entry screen). It seems that my suggestion has been ignored and now there is confusion.
Why do we have to put in cash prices? I, like the first person in the thread, want to know the credit prices, so entering the cash prices doesn’t even help myself.
Since people will never agree to all go along and do the same thing, I really hope the app engineers tweak it with an update to include credit/cash description options real soon.
I also think that reporting the credit price is better, and part of the reasoning is because I always use credit. When it first started around here (Metro Detroit), I did avoid stations who advertised 2 prices for regular unleaded, but as time went on, almost all stations do it now and it’s impossible to avoid.
I rarely shop around for low gas prices, but I admit I like telling others the price of gas at a station I’m at. If I want lower gas prices, I fill up at Costco, otherwise the prices are all pretty close around me.
I’m going to enter in the credit price, because I think that affects more people. I don’t want to carry around $100 in cash to fill up my car- I want to get the credit card hilton points. ![]()
You can enter whatever you want. Real prices, fake prices, cash prices, credit prices, rebate prices, prices for soda, car wash, whatever.
Just remember that the prices will be utterly useless for comparison unless everyone it entering the same thing.
I know that Waze is not Gas Buddy (a well established player with gas price tracking) but here is how they address this in their FAQ:
"Q: Do I post the cash price, or the credit price?
A: Differences in Cash/credit prices are common in some areas as a result of stations needing to offset the additional costs of these transactions.
GasBuddy’s goal is to help everyone make wise fueling decisions.
When reporting prices for stations in areas that have different prices based on method of payment, we ask that you post the cash price where it exists. If the station does not offer a cash price, the standard price should be reported.
The Comments field may be used to include a note about cash/credit prices, but this is not required."
One more point against cash prices. The majority of drivers today pay at the pump. In order to get the cash price you have to go into the store in order to pay cash. Thus the price being paid by the majority of drivers is the Credit price and that is the price that should be reported by the app. Again think about what is worse, to realize that because you have a C-note in your pocket you get to save a bit more. Or to find out that because you don’t carry that C-note but instead use Debit or credit you are going to have to pay more than what the app said you would, and thus you skipped the station across the street that doesn’t do a cash discount and splits the difference. Thus you pay more than you have to because Waze directed you falsely to the higher priced station.
Say what you will I will be reporting credit price, for that matter that’s the price I report to Gas Buddy as well. It does not make sense to report the false lower price, unless there is an option to specify the fact that there is a price difference for carrying dangerous amounts of cash.
Edited to add that based on what I see when I search Gas Buddy and what I see driving around, it seems most other people in my area at least also report the credit price.
Why would you put the credit card price in? I’m not in the US but it’d be stupid to assume everyone has or is going to use a credit card.
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It doesn’t matter if you pay cash or credit. It matters that everyone is reporting the same price so that the results are consistent. The standard is to report the cash price.