Reporting Gas prices - cash or credit?

Are you trying to say Waze shouldn’t integrate hot dog prices?!

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That’s what I was going to use my flamethrower for. Another business venture killed… :wink:

And that’s exactly why I quit using gas buddy. I tried using it to get the cheapest gas around and found that the prices that were reported weren’t the prices that was being charged (pay at the pump) so I lost all faith in the accuracy of the prices reported.

I mean, why drive a few miles out of my way to save $0.10 on gas when the real price is no different solely because one station charges a different amount for cash. Since the prices reported have no indication of cash or credit there’s no way to make an informed comparison and select the cheapest. Therefore the app was useless. The gas station search in waze may end up being the same.

However, I will still report prices; 8 points is 8 points. :smiley:

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Here it is thankfully only one price pr grade. No difference on card or cash.

Personally I’d like to stick with the current system of reporting cash prices, but with a single checkbox added that reads “Same Price Cash/Credit”. It would work perfectly in my area at least, since the single-price stations are a rare exception now. I’ve gotten used to just assuming any station has two prices and making mental notes of the few good ones. The proposed checkbox would simplify this mental note-taking progress, and be very useful when I’m traveling outside my usual routes. :mrgreen:

How would Waze deal with different kinds of octane rations between countries ;).

Here in DK we have 92, 95, V-power(99) and Diesel. Add to that some of the other “special” brands of speciality fuels with special additives akin to Shell VPower, but without the heightened octane level.

(Hopefully better late than never) Based on gettingthere’s repeated clarification that the Waze development team suggested entering the cash price and other similar applications also using the cash price, I have updated the Wiki to reflect that recommendation.

Of course who knows if anyone actually reads all my updates from the forums into the Wiki. :roll:

For myself personally, I only use a credit card, but I am very aware that I pay for that convenience. If I compare the price at two stations, I just need to know which is cheaper using the same base measurement system (cash). Once I get there, I am less concerned that what I actually pay is $0.05-0.10 more per gallon because at the other station with a higher cash price, their credit price is going to be higher by the same amount. In that case I went to the cheapest station I could have selected. Objective achieved.

When you really think about it entering only the cash price as the base entered amount is simple, fast, and works the best for the most people (even when most people use a credit card).

I’m an adult. I pay at the pump with a credit card. I will continue to enter in the credit prices. Given how far off the third party reporters are, or how old the reports are, I’m doing better than if I just left it alone.

By where I live, cash and credit are the same anyway. It’s only in and immediately around Chicago that they charge the extra.

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If true then you are actually entering the cash price which is what Waze is asking you to do.

Unfortunately, waze itself has never asked me to enter cash prices. It would be better for the consistent policy to be announced by waze.

Hi guys and gals,

We will add a note the “update gas price menu” that it should be cash only.
I’m not sure we’ll be able to add it to our next release, but it will be added to one of the next releases.

Thanks,

Ori

Great, consistency is key. The more people we can get to the same thing the better. Thanks for the input, Ori.

And thanks for mostly ignoring me :(. I didn’t come up with the idea to report cash prices. It’s already the standard with other applications that do the same.

So why so many rebels until Waze confirms what we already know?

Just because Gas buddy tells you to drive off a washed out bridge doesn’t mean it’s the best way to go. So far the only cognizant reason given for entering cash prices is “That what GB does”. Yet multiple well reasoned (and many not so well reasoned) explanations of why this is not a good idea have been given, all to be shot down with “But that’s what GB does”. Gas Buddy is not the end-all be all of fuel price reporting.

Again I ask you all to think about it for a second. What is better, to show up at a station thinking you will be paying $3.499 a gallon and finding out that because you happen to have sufficient cash and are willing to go into the store to the cashier you get an additional discount; or to show up at the station thinking you will be able to fill up at $3.499 a gallon and instead because you have entered the modern economy and use plastic you will have to pay an additional 10 cents a gallon. What is better? To be surprised by an additional savings or to be surprised by a higher price per gallon, particularly if you passed up a station a little closer and supposedly 5 cents more expensive, only to realize that instead of saving money it cost you as the 5 cents higher price is the credit price.

Gettingthere has been nothing but adamant that it’s his way or the highway because that’s what GB requests users do. (Though many examples of GB users not following those instructions have also been given.) I’ve followed this thread, I’ve participated in the thread and I have yet to see a single cognizant argument for cash prices other than “That’s what GB does”. Waze is not GB, Waze shouldn’t want to be GB, Waze wants to be useful and accurate, GB just wants to post the lowest price possible, regardless of whether or not it’s actually accessible to all their users. Example: how often are Costco or other shopping club stations at the top of the cheapest gas lists? Yet you have to pay an annual membership fee to get those prices. Another example is the gas station on the local Air Force base used to always top the list because they didn’t charge the state sales tax, thus cutting the tax rate per gallon in half, but only those with military ID’s could get the discounted rate (they eventually started charging the tax so they didn’t have to keep separate pumps for non-military folks to use). Listing the lowest possible rates even if most drivers can’t take advantage is useless. Listing the rate most drivers will be paying and then letting them enjoy the pleasure of an additional discount is far more sensible, IMO.

Cash price is useless to me as I rarely (never) carry that much cash on me (I drive a truck with a big tank), regardless of what the app says I will post the actual price because the number of drivers going inside to pay cash is a minuscule portion of the total number of those filling up. The credit price should be the base price as that is the price most drivers will be paying. Any cash discounts should be a bonus, not the standard. Waze doesn’t have to copy GB, in fact it would be better to not copy GB so closely in case they decide Waze is stealing their users and thus their business.

Oh wait, I know the response, “But Gas Buddy uses the cash price…”

The “actual” price is the cash price. You’re paying a premium over and above for the privilege of paying by plastic.

I’d be just as annoyed with the app if I chose one station based on the credit prices to find one 2 miles down the road was actually cheaper. That argument works both ways! Which is why it’s important to have a convention and understand what you’re seeing.

I understand your arguments but to insist on entering prices contrary to the agreed convention is just ruining it for everyone.

(and no mention of GB!)

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daknife, I believe I posted two cognizant arguments for cash prices other than GB. If you don’t think they are cognizant, I am sorry. :slight_smile:

Gas prices change so much every week, I am not sure why so many people are so concerned about which one is tracked. Everyone needs to understand that a ‘’‘common’‘’ one must be used between us for it to work for anyone. Frankly EITHER one would work for all of us as long as all of us entered the same one. If we all pick cash, the credit people know to add their $0.10. If we all pick credit, the cash people know to expect about $0.10 less.

Now that Waze has picked one for us, maybe we can move on.

I don’t think that the argument is that Gas Buddy uses cash prices, but rather that the third party source data that waze is using is cash prices. We need to be consistent, thus should use cash prices.

My only argument for cash prices is that the cash price is what you see on the signs, the billboards, and even the pump until you initiate a credit card transaction.

And that’s how GasBuddy does it.