Road Unsplit- Dutton Park (SR10 - Annerley Rd)

With the discussion of Annerley Road, looking at this road, is there any reason why the section around Dutton Park is split? The Northern and Southern Ends of Annerley Roads are unsplit, so wouldn’t it make more sense to unsplit the rest of it? It certainly would also make the whole area look more tidy and help with the turn in and turn outs.

I am proposing that this section of Annerley Road be unsplit and am volunteering for the role of doing it.

https://www.waze.com/en-GB/editor/?env=row&lon=153.02787&lat=-27.49861&layers=901&zoom=7&segments=150235082 Is the Road in Question.

Because the thought of having to clean up the Cornwall, Noble, Annerley Rd intersection is far too troublesome without an actual problem being present.

If you can detail your plan, covering the application of all turn instructions through there, and then in the absence of disagreement, we’ll let you have a go.

  1. Unsplit all of Annerley Road from Gladstone Road to Annerley Road South. This makes it one straight road.
  2. If you look at SR 48 Cornwall St across to Railway Tce, it goes straight across.
  3. Noble Street turn off becomes much shorter for the one way direction. Where exactly I would place the junction point for the turn off I have not quite determined, but it certainly would be much neater than the current diagram.
  4. SR 48 Cornwall St to Annerley Road going south is now a right arrow direction (much neater than in the map).

I am sure as I start hacking into this more changes to make, but this is the outline of the main changes. Of course there are all the turn in, turn outs to fix to check as we go/when complete.

Basically, SR Cornwall St, Annerley Road, Noble St, Railway Tce becomes an intersection, which is how the road outlay actually is. The slip lanes are retained as they are necessary.

OK, go for it. I’m unlocking now. Take extra care as I may be delayed in checking things over the coming days.

https://www.waze.com/en-GB/editor/?env=row&lon=153.02794&lat=-27.49942&layers=901&zoom=7&segments=294749797 Can you also unlock this segment as well? I think it will be this segment that might get pulled across, or at least adjusted.

As you know, better to have more roads unlocked and not need them, than not enough and get stuck half way. Now that all the roads are unlocked, I can now really start to work out how to put this together. I always aim to have it done in a 12 hour period, so it started and finished within the waze update period.

And yes, someone else needs to double check my work, but the more often I do this, the better I get at going over my own work.

First attempt at this area is now done.

look good

https://www.waze.com/en-GB/editor/?env=row&lon=153.02863&lat=-27.50009&layers=901&zoom=8&segments=166150926,166151482

these segments cross at the same level?

To answer your question. Yes they do. The intersection is traffic light controlled. Cars coming from the west on SR 48 Cornwall St, hit traffic lights and are directed from there.

And for the cars on Annerley Rd going to Noble Rd, same situation. They are traffic light controlled. This whole large intersection is traffic light controlled.

This is a post I did on road elevations

https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=137930

Ok, theclem and TG and other Qld editors, what is your opinion on the situation of this crossover of Cornwall St and Noble St, which are both one way and are at the same ground level?

There is quite a bit of correspondence to read, plus some commentary, and I am a bit confused. At this stage I don’t any change is required, but this is where this is a learning experience.

This is how I would do it

depending on the angles for TTS, might need some slip roads?

https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Scripts#WME_Junction_Angle_info

Whilst this indicative map is neater, it is not accurate. But I do want theclem, TG and other Qld editors to look at the suggestions from this thread, including my revisions and your suggestion ispyisail and see what they think. I think it is time for us to stop posting until they have commented. All we are doing is adding extra commentary to our own posts. We need their opinions, not more of our own.

Please do not reply to this reply, it is meant to be for theclem and others- I can see an issue with the diagram. Now Cornwall St, Noble St and Railway Tce are now one intersection, whereas in real life, Cornwall and Noble do not meet at the intersection. They only ‘join’ via the ‘slip road’ further south.

So it is time for others to reply.

Bring Noble St and Cornwall St to the same junction node on Annerley Rd. It’s cleaner, neater, easier, less segments and more accurate for speed data (due to less small segments).

I read something the other day about all segments on the same elevation needing to have junctions at their crossings now. To do with the seagull elevation changes. However if we have the same junction connecting them, this point is irrelevant.

Slip lanes can stay, we’re probably asking too much trouble to remove them.

Done and turn in and outs fixed.

Seagull elevation changes??

For the two left lanes from Cornwall St into Annerley Road, they are not a ‘slip lane’ by the normal way of thinking (such as turn any time with care), but are proper arrowed, traffic lighted, laned turns. So retaining the left turn lane in the map I think is certainly proper here.

https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Elevation_-_bringing_the_Seagull_to_Australia

Northbound on Annerley Rd restriction: https://www.waze.com/en-GB/editor/?env=row&lon=153.02820&lat=-27.49919&layers=901&zoom=7&segments=298641152

Cornwall St to Annerley Rd restriction: https://www.waze.com/en-GB/editor/?env=row&lon=153.02857&lat=-27.49983&layers=901&zoom=7&segments=166151186

Only two issues that I can identify.