Draft now on Wiki (but still draft). Rewritten with reference to global guidelines. Still a few bits that need polishing. Any areas still not clear?
http://wiki.waze.com/wiki/United_Kingdom/Places
I’m not completely sure about using [P] or not, after suggesting it originally.
I used to use it all the time before we started getting the P as an icon on the map. I just found it easier at the time to see a [P] on a map instead of trying to read a whole place name. I don’t know if it is needed as much now though, as it displays a P symbol.
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I think [P] was a good idea in its day.
But has that day passed now that Waze is generating a blue P automatically? I think so.
I’d put a ‘see rule x.x’ caveat in for ‘Individual businesses should be points, unless they occupy the entire building’ most small to medium businesses occupy their own building but are under the area needed to be mapped as a place, that or just make it that ALL businesses be mapped by a point and only complexes be mapped as an area.
It seems to me that the points are a database of business addresses and really shouldn’t be mapped even if they are huge, complexes (as the name suggests) should be the complex place that has lots of businesses and would be what people initially search for.
A question though is supermarkets, a lot of them have large carparks just for themselves, why just map the building? Is it not the same thing as complexes?
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I strongly believe that the map should represent the place that drivers see through their “window”, i.e. a big rectangle of a building surrounded by parking roads. If you draw it like a complex, then you lose that useful detail.
Besides, a supermarket isn’t a ‘complex’, as defined by your previous paragraph. 
The way I see it, a complex has many buildings but only 1 main destination. For example a school or hospital. The detail of the buildings is not important, and you’ll probably have to continue navigating on foot. IMHO, the parking area should be excluded from the area, as it is mapped by the PLRs and the ‘whitespace’.
A supermarket or shopping centre, on the other hand, is usually a single building containing 1 or more destinations. The driver needs to be navigated to most the appropriate parking area, and they can then use the outline of the building and placement of the business to orientate themselves so they can continue on foot.
A very large shopping centre (or district) might be spread amongst several buildings, but this still doesn’t make it a complex. My preference is to have an area for each (large) building, with points for businesses. Then the driver might enter a car park, and see where he is in relation to the buildings around him, and which is the one he wants to go to.
Also consider the ‘where did I park my car’ use case. Judging the distance to a blue pin in the middle of a gray blob is not easy. A blue pin surrounded by the buildings you can see around you is much more useful.
I’ll give you that one! PLRs within a supermarket area won’t make any odds to most supermarkets as they tend to have a few secondary businesses in the area concerned, KFC, McDonalds, pick up points etc. I’m not sure if the mainland is different to over here but surely a ‘simple’ shape is just that, simple. So it shouldn’t matter, plus the ‘where did I park my car’ is the same thing as ‘look out the windscreen’ and I hope people don’t use Waze to find their car
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Good job! Nice simple outline, minimum of corners, no ‘car park’, and just enough parking roads. Have you seen it live in the app yet?
I’d be inclined to make the shopping centre appear as two separate buildings, either as two places (east and west, or leave one unnamed) or a very narrow connecting bit across the gap (which is what I did).
I’d also put the points closer to the entrances, to make sure they’re close to the appropriate parking road.
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I was wondering if the draft guidelines are going to become official, so reread them again and had a couple of queries:
Should the natural features to be locked at 3 include seas, lakes and rivers?
Could “Do Not Add “Car Park” as a secondary category; instead, tick the ‘Customer Parking’ option under Services” be preceeded by “If a shopping center or single shop has its own parking,” or something to that effect? (If I’ve understood the guidance correctly)
Under shopping centres/malls it says: “If there is a Pharmacy or Optician within the store, add it as a category (not point)”. Does this mean that Pharmacy/Optician should be added as a category to the individual store or to the shopping centre as a whole? I would have thought it should be the individual store but there might be a good reason that I haven’t spotted for it to be the shopping centre.
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Yes, them too. Basically, anything that appears green or blue on the app.
Yes, though it could be for any type of place, not just shopping ones.
Yes, add the category to the actual shop that contains that service, for example Boots or Tesco.
Sorry, one more:
Should Park and Rides be named ‘Car Park Name P+R’ or ‘Car Park Name Park and Ride’?
Thanks. No, not published yet. I was drawn to it by the ornate carpark roads and thought I’d apply these guidelines at the same time.
Oh, and another thing - after sorting out a car park like this, you might want to lock it to 3 to stop another noob coming by and re-adding all the lanes again.
I think the full name would be best, as that’s a closer match to what a user would search for.
Hi,
Or even [P] Name Park & Ride given that they usually don’t have “Car Park” as part of their name but will probably have the white “P” sign?
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I think TheMKLightning meant “<car park name> Park and Ride”, such that the words “Car Park” don’t appear in the name.
Use of [P] is to be deprecated.
That I did.
Note for all: these guidelines are now no longer “draft” and should be followed by all UK editors.
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