Washington Metro Median Stations

There are four stations of the DC Metro located in the median of I-66: East Falls Church, West Falls Church, Dunn Loring-Merrifield, and Vienna. You cannot actually physically access the stations from the interstate - you have to get off and go into a parking lot. Currently, we have two data points for each of these stations - the station itself, in the median of I-66, and the parking lot/garage, where that is. I initially moved the WFC station to the parking, but then realized that already existed too and wondered if we needed both.

So, do we delete the “station” points since nobody should be driving there, do we move them to the parking where people would drive, or do we keep as is?

I will check but the pin location of those stations were not in the median but over by the dropoff point. Problem is if people don’t select the Waze location but the google import that is in the middle then the get misrouted.

For West Falls Church the place is a point by the kiss and ride. There are also locations for the kiss and ride and the parking garage. Your suggested change to move it to the garage does not work for the people dropping another person off. If you want to go to the metro then use “West Falls Church Metro Station” or “West Falls Church Metro”. If you want to go to the garage then use the garage location, since it is already there.

For East Falls Church the place is an area with the pin point by the kiss and ride. There are also locations for the kiss and ride and the parking garage. If you want to go to the metro then use “East Falls Church Metro Station” or “East Falls Church Metro”. If you want to go to the garage then use the garage location, since it is already there.

For Dunn Loring-Merrifield the place is an area with the pin point by the kiss and ride. There are also locations for the kiss and ride and the parking garage. If you want to go to the metro then use “Dunn Loring-Merrifield Metro Station” or “Dunn Loring-Merrifield Metro” or “Dunn Loring Metro” or “Dunn Loring Metro Station”. If you want to go to the garage then use the garage location, since it is already there.

For Vienna Metro South and Vienna Metro North are point places with the pin point by the kiss and ride. There are also locations for the North and South kiss and rides and the North and South parking garages. If you want to go to the garages then please search for one of them.

The main thing is you are probably using a bad google import by not matching our names. I have added more close wording. But search results in Waze are retrieved from numerous sources. After tapping search, please Scroll to the bottom (vice hitting GO) and you will see options for Waze and other search engines. Please try to use the Waze source.

Also if you have this saved as work or a favorite then delete it and resave. Also don’t use old routes or searches from history since they will stick with the old bad data that was imported. V/r subs5

If I select the autocomplete result for “West Falls Church Metro” my route ends on I-66. We should be able to fix this. I will see what I can do.

East Falls Church Metro Station appears to put in the median of I-66 along the platform. Same with Dunn Loring-Merrifield Vienna appears to be correct. West Falls Church is at the Kiss and Ride, but apparently people get routed to the middle of I-66 anyway, which should be looked into.

The problem is that there are multiple entries for each station and they’re all in different places, one of which (at least for EFC and Dunn Loring) is in the middle of I-66, where the platform is.

It does not look that way to me. The stop point for the East Falls Church Metro Station is by the kiss and ride as sub5 states. Waze is routing me to the kiss and ride, not to a stop on I-66. If this is different for you, please tell us exactly what you search for and exactly what result you select.

I search for East Falls Church Metro Station. That link should take you directly to it. It appears there are several different entries for the station. The one you mentioned is one, as is that.

But none of the different entries for East Falls Church Metro Station route you to the median of I-66 do they?

Yes, that appears to be correct, even though one of them is an area placed in the median. Conversely, even though the West Falls Church point is in the kiss & ride, it takes me to end on I-66. Very strange.

It is an area placed in the median. However, we can adjust the stop points for area places on the waze map. The stop point does not need to be within the area of the place. In this case the stop point for the East Fall Church Metro is by the kiss and ride road.

For some reason the Google location is not matched up to the Waze location for “West Falls Church Metro.” Thus, the autocomplete result takes you the Google pin which is in the median of I-66. The Google result also remains as one of the choices if you complete the search. I have submitted a request to have this corrected.

If using the autocomplete search is giving you a problem then you need to make sure that you use Waze’s result.

The normal information for URs is “Search results in Waze are retrieved from numerous sources. After tapping search, Scroll to the bottom and you will see options for other search engines. Please try a different option as another search engine might have the address you are looking for”

Also make sure that you aren’t using something that you saved as favorite or work with the bad import from Google.

Google puts their pin in the middle of the station.  I have submitted requests to move it. but it doesn't work.  Took 4 years to get Walter Reed Hospital moved from DC to Bethesda; I had sumbitted numerous requests over an 8 month period before they finally relented.

Since the volunteer map editors can't fix the algorithm to not select the bad Google, and you can use the park and ride place or the kiss and ride place or make sure you are selecting the Waze Metro Station Place, is there a reason that none of these work for you?

The other day you submitted a change to move the metro station pin to the parking garage, since you probably are driving there, if you select that as your destination will it route you properly?  Main reason it was disapproved is that people going to Metro to drop off or pick up someone are not parking and don't want to go to the garage.

Fair enough. I was inexperienced and eventually sought help as advised. But nobody should be routed to the middle of I-66, and right now they are, so it’s still wrong. Even if my solution wasn’t correct, it’s still wrong now.

Edit: To clarify, the option that’s supposed to go to the Kiss & Ride isn’t - it’s going to the middle of I-66. That’s still wrong, regardless. I now realize it should go to the Kiss & Ride, not the garage, but the fact remains that it’s not.

Edit 2: But if there’s nothing we can do because it’s Google’s fault, I guess we’ll have to deal with that. Still, if I managed to (incorrectly) move the pin to the parking garage, would it be possible to move it to the correct place, the Kiss & Ride? Or would that not work? Sorry - I’m new at this so I don’t know everything.

Regardless, it shouldn’t take people to the middle of I-66 if we can help it.

The Waze Pin was in the correct place, You moved it to the wrong place but since it was locked it had to be removed. You can see where the West Falls Church Metro is in Waze by clicking on the link.
The Google change that goes to the middle of I-66 is submitted again. You can also submit that change too.

If the pin is in the correct place, how come it routes people to the middle of I-66? I’m confused. Perhaps we should move it onto the Kiss & Ride road itself? Would that fix things?

Edit: Oh, I see, there’s an area for the Kiss & Ride (correctly placed) and a point for the Metro Station itself (incorrectly placed, as it routes to the middle of I-66, which should never happen.) Is the wrong one the Google one? In which case, is there anything at all we can do about it other than tell people to navigate to the Kiss & Ride or Park & Ride? Or can we just move it so it’s in the right place for one of them, apparently the Kiss & Ride?

Yes, I believe that the wrong location is a Google location. Yes, we can do something about it. We should be able to get waze to use the waze place when selecting a result for West Falls Church Metro. We may also be able to get Google to move their pin location. At this point, I’m trying to get waze to use the waze location and I think subs5 has tried to get Google to move their pin location. If either of us are successful the problem should resolve.

Waze is now routing me correctly if I select the autocomplete result for West Falls Church Metro.