I-95 / I-678 / I-278 (Bruckner)

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Permalink: https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat=40.83663&lon=-73.82218&layers=BFTFFTTTFTTFTTTTTTTTTFT

I’d like to ask for some “wayfinder” segments. Yesterday I was coming down I-95 from Connecticut, heading to the RFK bridge. As I approached the split where I-95 goes right and I-678 (Throgs Neck Bridge) goes left, I had no instructions – my next instruction was to stay left for the Bruckner (I-278). However, I needed to stay in the three right lanes, then immediately in the two left lanes. I would like waze to say at least “keep right then keep left”.

Right now I-678 is set up as an exit, and I-95 as a continuation. As a consumer I’m a big believer in wayfinder segments (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Junction_Style_Guide#Wayfinder_Segments). This area is partially locked. Even if it wasn’t, I don’t like messing with other people’s territory, but I believe some wayfinders would be a good idea here instead of the current configuration.

Also, the ramp at this permalink is misnamed, “RKF” not “RFK” - https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat=40.83663&lon=-73.82218&layers=BFTFFTTTFTTFTTTTTTTTTFT

Thanks.

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I have updated the location so that the client will instruct the driver to keep left.

Thanks for the heads up.

As for the misnamed exit, i can’t seem to locate it. I’ve looked in the area but they all seem to be ok.

I’ll keep looking.

MD

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Sorry for the rant, I’m used to having to convince people that wayfinders are good.

It looks like cfbronx got it yesterday.

Thanks again.

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If I’m looking at the right section, you won’t get the prompt you want yet. As stated in the wiki, both direction choices must be the same road type. What I see is a mix of Ramp and Freeway at the decision points.

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Makes sense. The left branch to the Throgs Neck shouldn’t be a ramp.

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Well, the left branch is an exit, so i’m going to keep that a ramp.

As for the continuation of I-95, i have changed it to a ramp. This way both exiting segments are identical road types, and the alert should work.

Thanks Weezer14 for picking that up.

MD

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From the wiki, and the perennial ramp vs freeway discussion :slight_smile: : “Note: will provide “Keep Left” and “Exit Right” instructions”. Is that what you want?

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As much as I am a supporter of wayfinders, I quickly admit that they are flawed and limited.

If we use all ramps, you get “Exit Right” and “Keep Left”.

If we use all Freeway, you get “Keep Right” and “Keep Left”.

There is no way (in a right hand drive country) to get an “Exit Left” instruction. (And the mirror case is true in a left hand drive country).

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Well, in this case the left fork may technically be an exit but it takes just as many lanes as the “main” road. I would be in favor of freeway/freeway. Thanks.

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I guess this is a limitation we have to work with then.

Weezer, if you don’t mind, please unlock this segment and i’ll change both exiting segments to freeway.

Again, thanks for educating me on the wayfinder segments.

It’s times like these when i wish there was a “simulator client” where i could test out the impacts of my edits.

MD

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Selected segment unlocked.

Note that when using Freeway segments, if they are long enough the full name will show up on the client. That may be the biggest difference between Ramps and the highway road types in these cases. To reduce the times that a name appears, you create a short wayfinder as if you were using ramps, but type it as Freeway instead. (This is shown in the wiki.)

Closest to the simulator is using the livemap with the navigation script addon.