My edit was changed, & other newbie questions

After viewing the newbie tutorial (twice) a month ago, I made several edits (under a different ID, since canceled). One of those was to “straighten” the street I live on (150th Place SE, Mill Creek, WA).

At the east end of that (two block long) street, there is a circle with a large planting area in the middle. Since Google Maps represents that end as having a circle, I drew a circle there.

I notice that yesterday the east end of the street was changed (by dude463) to just end in a point. Questions (note that I am NOT challenging this; I just want to know what the rules are):

  • So streets that end in a circle have no street representation for this?* Since the purpose of the circle is to reverse direction, shouldn’t the street be modified to show “U-turns” allowed?* Shouldn’t all roads that end in a dead end allow “U-turns”?

More unrelated questions:

  • It seems that the guidance on parking lots has changed in the last four years, so that “private” parking lots are not to be created. What is “private”? Is a lot that is for employees & visitors of a single entity “private”? If so, is there any way to get rid of the hundreds of “parking lot place” suggested edits on my editing map?* How do I create a parking lot exit, as is suggested (there’s already a parking lot road)?* There is an “Update request” by someone for a “Missing road”
    on Seattle Hill Road, about 1.5 mi WSW of my above location in Mill Creek. Did I answer that correctly? Should I close it, or should I wait for a response?

Further suggestions welcome. I find the Wiki useful but incomplete.

Hi, welcome to editing and thank you for starting this conversation. Cul-de-sacs already allow for a U-turn automatically and drawing a circle doesn’t do any good. Think of Waze as a Keep It Simple map as opposed to other maps that can get very convoluted. https://wazeopedia.waze.com/wiki/USA/Junction_Style_Guide#Cul-de-sacs

  1. Unless it’s a very large circle at the end we don’t need to map it any different than a normal dead end street.
  2. U-turns are already allowed automatically. Although a recent update to WME has started showing the option again at the end of the segment I believe that’s a bug and will go away. The system will know you need to turn around.
  3. Yes, they do automatically. Sometimes you’ll get routed to one because it’s the fastest looking U-turn route that the system will see.

more answers

  1. Parking guidance has indeed changed over the last 6 months to a year. To put things in a simplistic nutshell any lot that is for someone to drive to and then leave their car and go someplace else, be it a paid lot or free, should be made public. Any lot that is restricted to something less than that should be made Restricted. So your local grocery store’s parking lot would be restricted, but your park n ride, the paid lots, local shopping center lots, etc… would be public. Further functionality is planned for the Parking Lot Areas and this will get more complicated. It is my hope (and nobody has told me this is what will happen) that when you enter a business parking lot to park the app won’t ask you if you need parking if you’re in a marked parking lot, but if you’re not in a marked parking lot it may then suggest where public parking is. Again that’s what I hope it will do in the future, not what it does now.
  2. currently we’re only able to create one entry point. That function may appear later to add more.
  3. When answering a UR and it’s not expressly written what the problem is with an easy solution you’ll need to ask for more information. Be sure to tell then reporter to answer in the app or via the link in the email. Some have been known to reply to the email itself and that doesn’t go anywhere. Give them 7 days to respond. If no response then you can close the report as Not Identified. If however you’re able to solve it close the report as Solved. When you save the reporter may be able to respond once, but after that they’d need to come to the map to make any further responses to that report. If you find that you’ve closed a report prematurely just add a final message on it to create a new report if the problem continues. Sometimes things seem to work out on their own or as other problems get solved.

The wiki has been replaced by the Wazeopedia. It will never be complete because it will always be changing to meet the needs at the time. In short, I feel your pain.

Let us know if you have any other questions. I’m happy to answer them for you. And again, thanks for asking the questions.

If you have a specific thing you’d like me to look at give me a Permalink and I’ll take a look at it.
https://wazeopedia.waze.com/wiki/USA/Map_Editor_Interface_and_Controls#Permalink

Thanks much. I have added the above link to my permanently-open browser tabs …

I think I will stay away from editing parking lots for the time being …

Edit: I’ve been straightening (removing unneeded nodes) residential roads near where I live. I think this is a productive way to practice editing.

https://www.waze.com/editor?env=usa&lon=-122.29339&lat=47.91004&s=70491415&zoom=6&segments=82339630

Confirmed; needs level 3 editor.

Edit: I may have messed up the history on this. There was an update request for the above link, stating that there is a “U-turn permitted” sign at this intersection. I verified that was correct via Street View (& marked the UR as Solved), but am unable to make the edit, as stated above.

I’ve enabled the U-turn and forced it to say “Make A U-turn”.

We should always be commenting on URs whether we close them or ask for new info. I use a set of boilerplate responses that cover most situations.
https://wazeopedia.waze.com/wiki/USA/User:DwarfLord/UR
The list is broken up with sections 1 & 2 for initial contact. 3, 4, & 5 are for asking for more info. 6 is for closing reports. If you read through the various responses you’ll get a feel for how things work. Also, if things aren’t spelled out like the report you’ve linked to and the reporter just doesn’t respond we wait 7 days before closing the report as Not Identified. The report you’ve linked to is somewhat uncommon in that it tells you everything you need to know and can be solved quickly.

A couple of links that can help get you going are here
https://wazeopedia.waze.com/wiki/USA/Best_map_editing_practice
https://wazeopedia.waze.com/wiki/USA/Edits_to_avoid

Edit: It’s also not too late to add the response “Volunteer responding to your report of a map issue. Thanks to your report we’ve found and fixed a problem with the map. The fix should reach handheld devices within a week, but on rare occasions it can take longer. Cheers!”

Thanks for the “fix”. I did previously leave a brief comment in the UR that confirmed the reporter’s report. The UR is no longer visible (that I can find) to me to update.

I will plan to use the boilerplate responses in the future, and also make sure I can edit something before marking something as Solved. Is there an easy way to “escalate” a UR I have done some research on, but can’t edit? Or should I post it here? Posting here would seem to clutter the forum.

I did read the latter two wazeopedia links, and now have read the first wazeopedia link.

Hey, sorry I’ve taken a while to get back to you. The official place to ask for an unlock is in the Unlock forums at https://www.waze.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=622
However you can post here and I or someone else can take care of it. Or you can PM me personally. It’s not a bother, it’s what I’m here for.

Are you in the Discord chat group yet? If not you’re more than welcome to join.
https://discord.me/wazenwr

Hey, I see you’ve got a UR here that you’re working.
https://www.waze.com/en-US/editor/?env=usa&lon=-122.24923&lat=47.85864&zoom=6&mapUpdateRequest=7719654

To find info on this use the county GIS. The one for Snohomish County is at http://gis.snoco.org/maps/property/viewer.htm
This will bring up a map of just Snohomish County. It’s not nearly as easy to navigate. On the left hand side there’s map controls. Click Zoom In and then click and drag a box on the map. It will zoom it in there. If you click on the map it will also zoom in but at very small increments. You’d need to click Zoom Out to get it to zoom back out. Etc…
You’ll want to zoom in, particularly the part next to I-5 between Lynnwood and Mill Creek.

Once you find the area on the map that corresponds with the UR at the top of the GIS page on the left panel click “VIEW PROPERTY INFORMATION”. You can now click on the individual parcels to get the addresses. You’ll see you need to change the name to part of the street. Draw a new road, intersect at the corner where the name change should happen, then delete the street you just drew. You’ll be left with two segments and you can change the name of the one you need.

After you do that save. Then you can add house numbers.
https://wazeopedia.waze.com/wiki/USA/House_Numbers_in_WME
The interface has changed a bit since this wiki article was written but it’s essentially the same. I will advise you that when you work house numbers don’t try to do all of them at once. Work in small batches. Getting an error after 20 minutes of work just to start over again sucks. Do a few, save, a few more, save. If you get any that need to be “forced” or some other error it won’t let you save until you get that resolved. It’s very touchy. I mean it, don’t work large batches. Once you get it all saved to your liking click the EXIT at the top where Save usually is. You can’t do anything else in WME until you exit.

Let me know if you need any help.

I see you fixed it! However, your above response will be helpful for the future.

Not trying to steal edits. Sorry. Let me know if you have any other URs that need any guidance.

You can always steal edits, if I have not made any progress in the prior 24 hours.

I need an editor w/ more privilege to join this segment to Broadway Ave:
https://www.waze.com/editor?env=usa&lon=-122.11177&lat=47.82808&s=70491415&zoom=5&segments=509924005

A related question: w/ 7570 points & 1382 edits (I don’t drive much at the moment), how far am I from being a level 2 editor?

Broadway lowered so you can connect and edit. Check all turns into and out of the segment after you save.

Level 2 comes at 3000 quality edits. Editing area is given to you based on where you’ve driven with the app on. You don’t necessarily have to be actively navigating anywhere. But the area does expire after 90 days from the last time you were in an area with app on. So if you use Waze to go to / from work on a weekly basis you keep resetting that drive area every time you have the app on while going somewhere.

Oops, it turns out that the junction I need to make on Broadway is just a couple hundred feet outside my editing area!

Connected. I’d add a Residential Place Point for those addresses on that road. When you do that use the city for the actual mailing address, not the actual city. In this case it’s both Maltby but sometimes it isn’t (Renton encompasses a lot of surrounding city names for example).