SC Town naming of Springdale and Elgin

Okay, so there are two Springdales in South Carolina:

Lexington County:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-81.10142&lat=33.9628&zoom=1&layers=519&env=usa

Lancaster County:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-80.78024&lat=34.6916&zoom=1&layers=519&env=usa

The first one near Lexington is marked on the map as Springfield (2) and is an incorporated town, while the second one near Lancaster is marked Springfield and is a CDP (an unincorporated census-designated place). My question here is about the towns’ names. I would think the incorporated community deserves to be considered the first, but I’d like to know if there was another way to distinguish between the two towns. OR, is it even something I should worry about?

Similarly, there is a similar problem regarding two places calle Elgin.

Kershaw County:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-80.71209&lat=34.66774&zoom=1&layers=519&env=usa

Lancaster County: (Note there is no polygon, but this is where it is located) https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-80.71209&lat=34.66774&zoom=1&layers=519&env=usa

I said that Elgin, Kershaw County was the only Elgin in the state, but the Kershaw Elgin was Elgin (2). There was another polygon in Lancaster County, which I thought was erroneous, and somebody else deleted it. I just found out there really is a CDP up there called Elgin. (Apparently Lancaster County communities stole names from elsewhere in the state). Now the Lancaster Elgin’s polygon is no longer in existence and the Kershaw Elgin is simply marked “Elgin.” CDP’s are typically included as cities on the map, so the problems involving the Springdales apply to the Elgins as well.

All of this is beginning to confuse me and I need some input on what to do about the Kershaw Elgin and Lexington Springdale (both in my editing area). The Lancaster communities are not, so whatever we decide somebody else has to implement in Lancaster County.

Sprigndale (2) should have gone away and should now be Springdale. At least Waze said they updated it. I think it was the end of this week though. So it may or may not need an update.

And to correct one point. CDP’s are not to be included on the map.

I will have to check the Elgin one but I thought this was taken care of earlier.

Elgin is taken care of. So only incorporated communities are included? I can’t seem to find that on the wiki.

I brought it up briefly before, but as there’s not many active editors on the forum, there wasn’t much discussion on the matter (we both agreed that CDPs weren’t necessary); I still don’t think CDPs are necessary, but I do see how they can be beneficial in some cases. As for the no CDPs rule, I know that’s NC’s guidelines, but pretty sure it’s on a state-by-state or regional basis. I would say to not include CDPs, but would love to hear your thoughts, too.

I would say do not include CDP’s unless you can come up with a very specific reason why it would be beneficial.

CDP’s should be the exception not the rule.

About the only one in the Columbia area I’d argue for inclusion is Lugoff since it has a clear center town and it is typically well known in the area. There’s a load of CDP’s though in the Columbia-Sumter area (particularly around Sumter) that are clearly unnecessary–most aren’t even signed on the highways. Who do I contact to get those removed?

There is a form here

If you let me know after you entered it I can probably get it approved quicker.

I’ve submitted one for St. Andrews, Saint Andrews, and Seven Oaks and one for White Rock, Ballentine, and Lake Murray of Richland.

Saint Andrews is a real town is it not?

When exactly should we use this form? I’m thinking of going through and cleaning up a few up here (Lesslie, Newport, and others) and some of them don’t seem to have too many segments, so I was thinking of editing them manually; would that work? If we fill out this form, does Waze support automatically remove the city name from all segments, or do they just remove it from the map and we still have to remove the name from segments?

This is my understanding:

It depends if it is from the base map import you will still need to fill in the form to delete it out. If the segments in question get changed over to a new street I do think it gets rid of the notation. If it is just going to become ‘No City’ then you are better off filling in the form.

Second question, if you fill out the form it will remove the name from all segments in that general area.

ianlangford.

You need to submit one form for each CDP you want to delete. They way you submitted the form it might have deleted all the Lexington, SC segments.

Andrews in Georgetown County is a town. St. Andrews is a CDP according to the Census bureau. It’s just the Richland County portion of the area between Irmo and Columbia. It’s not even on the state highway map (as of 2013).

Also, do I need to resubmit the forms then or wait to see if any damage is done? I didn’t mention anything about Lexington, so it shouldn’t delete the name “Lexington”, should it? Or does it delete EVERY name in the window? If that’s so, it’s actually parts of Columbia and W. Columbia I’m worried about.

Ok I thought I would see an exit with that name on it on I-26. I might have gotten it confused with something else.

I denied your first request so it should be basically like you are starting from scratch.

Ah, I see where I went wrong. I resubmitted for St. Andrews, which is from the base map I think. There are two polygons there (one St. and one Saint), but the latter isn’t in the base map so removing the road names should work. Unfortunately I don’t have editing privileges in all of Saint Andrews, so I’ll drive up there and get it tomorrow around noon and delete the second polygon.

Oh, and one of the major roads up there is St. Andrews Road. That’s probably what you saw.

That may be regarding the road name.

Go ahead and submit all versions of the CDP’s you want to get rid of. It will be quicker that way. You just need to do it one at a time.

Ok I’ve done Lexington County. The CDP’s of St. Andrews, Red Bank, Oak Grove, Seven Oaks, and Lake Murray of Richland are included, as are the unincorporated communities of Ballentine, White Rock, and Dixiana. Richland County to follow.