Unlock Request: M62 East - M60 junction (Manchester UK)

This offslip arrangement has changed and the directions could be potentially dangerous. (satellite is out of date)

https://world.waze.com/editor/?lon=-2.38251&lat=53.48595&zoom=5&layers=BFTFTTTFTTTTTTTTTTTTFT&segments=150389190

I’ve unlocked the entire junction - please let me know when you’re done so I can relock it. Ta.

Ok, I have fixed it. I dont use this route too often, so am not entirely sure where the keep left for the [M62 (E) J12 exit to M60 (CW)] should start, but I reckon it wont be too far off.

The service road was already there and have not looked at that and agree that should be removed.

The way the junction now works is that there are 4 lanes on the M62(E). 2 of them turn into left turn lanes for the M60(CW) exit, the other 2 form the M602(E)

Then just before the junction splits at the nosing, a left turn is formed off the outside M62(E) lane and creates the M60(ACW) sliproad.

The M60(CW) and M60(ACW) slips are divided by a ghost island and run along side each other. So the tricky part is that they are separate slips that are both accessed from the M62(E). Once you are on the M60(CW) slip, you cannot cross to the M60(ACW) as you need to cross the ghost island…

The way you described is how it was before. And the navigation will tell you to keep or turn right of the M60(CW) slip onto the M60(ACW) slip. The way it should be is that you keep/turn left of the M62(E) onto the M60(ACW) slip. The former is now an illegal move…

I hope that made sense. I have attached a sketch of the arrangement. I would be interested to know a better solution? Perhaps naming the ramp elements so the match the road signs (ie M60 North and M60 South & East)?

In fact, looking at the junction naming ramps Wiki (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_label_and_name_roads_(United_Kingdom))
I would suggest to change all the CW and ACW tags with N, E, W and S as that is how it is signed?

I would be inclined to agree, though there are some editors that swear by CW and ACW. Whenever I’ve renamed ramps at M60 J15, they’ve been renamed back again. I don’t think we ever came to an agreement about this.

I think CW and ACW makes sense when looking at a map, but when driving I think directions should match the road signs, especially at confusing junctions… ah well :slight_smile:

Neil, totally agree and that is the current scheme we use on the m25.

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