France has introduced some new rules for road warriors. One is that every car is required to have 2 functional breathalyzers on board. Another is that devices with navigation software that report speed traps and red light cameras are prohibited to even be carried in cars! Let alone switched on!
So Waze is now officially illegal in France.
OMG that’s crazy! 
This means other countries can dovthe same! Sad…
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Yep! For instance countries that have a deficit and ‘need’ the extra ‘revenue’ from fines to alleviate budget problems.
And what country today does NOT have a deficit/budget problem!
Whole EU needs money :shock:
You do the math…
For what I remember I had the same problem in Switzerland early 90th
Like for many other radio equipment, you can own it, but you can not use it
Related to Waze . In countries which such a problem, we could simply disable speedcam futon the map
…and, in France, you will still get a huge fine! Because it is illegal to have a device – no matter whether it is switched on or off – with navigation capabilities including speedtrap notification or information IN YOUR CAR.
So disabling speedtrap functionality is not enough! If you have an app like Waze on your device and in your car, in whatever condition, you are culpable.
So now we wait for some idiot to duct tape his device, with Waze running, to his OUTSIDE rearview mirror believing this law does not apply to him. :mrgreen:
To have 2 functional breathalyzers on board is more stupid to me. That’s ridiculous and what’s next? Have a coffee machine on board for the Flics that they can drink a cup while they checking Waze on your Phone 
Stupid european laws…
think it’s possible to change the Waze icon on the screen, if they really looking for the blue waze icon on the device.
That is exactly the question!
Of course, piece of cake! You can already do that today. Spoof icons. And we all know cops are so thick that it will take 'm 10 years to catch on again to that high-brow trick… And there will be all sorts of other loopholes and workarounds developed. All illegalized, sooner or later. It’s an ‘arms race’. But that’s not the point. The point is that all this is steadily moving in a very undesirable direction. A direction that slowly but surely shapes a society where just about everything is basically declared illegal = punishable, and consequently a permanent ‘sword of Damocles’ hanging over every citizen’s head. A society where an atmosphere of permanent threat, coercion, and fear is the norm. A fascist society.
Switzerland is close to the rest of the EU with stupid laws. But there is always a way to handle some things.
Would help for the coolingproblems as well! But what asterix proposes - disabling the speedcamfunctionality from the SERVER side - seems legal to me. You take Waze over the border and - poof!, speedcams gone, nothing you can do. Would hold in court.
When you cross a border it takes the system up to 20/30km to adjust* to that fact. So for that 20/30km you would be breaking the law.
*When crossing a border without roaming selected, you’ll find that nav and phone services still work even though you’re well over 10km inside the other country. I.o.w. the system has not yet recognized that you are in another country. And as long as it hasn’t it will not disable the speedcam functionality (in Asterix’ scenario), and you will be breaking the law…
So where would you position yourself if you were a French traffic cop hunting for lawbreakers…? :idea:
That’s because you are still locked to your “local” cell towers… Those signals cross borders quite easily… If it were to be a GPS based function, you’d get the change pretty close to the border… Certainly less than 10km…
Agreed. Then it could occur within 100 metres of the actual border. (Still 100 metres of law breaking though…).
So Asterix’ scenario being GPS based would be conditional.
But then another, much bigger, and much more fundamental problem crops up: by the end of next year the first GPS satellites will start to fall out of the sky. Don’t forget they’ve been up there for almost 30 years now, and that orbits decay. They are already down to 24 now, from the original 32 (28 + 4 spares; the system was designed to function on 28 active satellites; 8 have already packed up). So in 2 or 3 years there won’t be enough working GPS satellites up there anymore for the system to work. And there’s no money – or even plans – for a replacement system. Obama cut all NASA’s big programs, remember? Orion rockets, Moon missions, Mars missions, asteroid/comet missions, Saturn missions, and GPS. Among other programs. He had to. He’s broke. America is bankrupt. 13 Trillion deficit!
(Kinda ‘funny’ really: first the USA destroyed the Soviet Union by outspending it, effectively bankrupting the USSR, and then the USA simply continued outspending, but themselves; and of course bankrupted themselves; the destruction is on-going).
Meantime the rest of the world has had 25 years to observe how the US applied/applies GPS for political purposes. To apply pressure. And of course for waging war.
Try turn-by-turn navigation in PyongYang, Tehran, Baghdad, Damascus. It doesn’t work. Na-nana-na-na!
But it doesn’t work in some allies’ countries either, like e.g. Riyadh (Saudi Arabia). Because it would be too convenient for radical suicide bombers who inexplicably disagree with the dictatorial monarchy (actually a plutocracy/theocracy) to blow up a couple dozen of the 5,800 ‘princes’ they have overthere.
And what happens with GPS overthere can happen overhere too, at the flick of a switch in the Pentagon. So the rest of the world isn’t keen at all to be dependent on that American system. So they build their own. Russia’s already got GLONASS, started in the Soviet era. But it survived (kinda hibernating) the regime change (one fascist plutocracy for another). And it was revived and is steadily expanding. Europe’s got Galileï, of which the first 2 or 3 satellites are already up. China already have a couple satellites of their Baidu system up there. India and Japan have formally committed to building their own satnav systems. And Australia, South Korea, and Brasil have announced that they are seriously looking into the possibilities too.
All are systems that intend to put networks of between 19 and 60 satellites in orbit!
Note that they are all countries with vast mineral and/or manpower resources and a very bright economical future. They can/will be able to afford programs like this. The USA won’t.
So it looks as if in, say, 5 years time the shoe will be on the other foot: the USA, having no functional satnav system anymore, will have to go begging, hat in hand, to get satnav data from the countries that do have functional (second generation) satnav systems.
Anyway, a lot will change in satnav land in the coming decade. That much is clear.
And then there’s the new system being developed by BAE that uses normal radio signals for positioning in similar way to planes. It’ll work underground too 
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C’mon, do you really have to?
Now slogan:
WAZE: Outsmarting traffic, ridiculous country’s laws together.
Wouldn’t it be easier to just disable speed cameras within France’s polygon in the editor?
Rokcet: You have some wrong information.
GPS is run by the United States Air Force - not NASA. There are lots of extra US GPS satellites (31 in-orbit and Healthy), and the USAF is working on the 3rd generation constellation (36 more). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System And none of the other proposed Non-US GPS copies will work with the current cell phone technology (if at all). Those other imitating countries are not known to share as well as the US does with the rest of the world.